Call a Spade, a Spade!
Muhammad Ali Jinnah – Presidential Address to the Constituent Assembly of Pakistan on 11th August, 1947
As you know, history shows that in England conditions, some time ago, were much worse than those prevailing in India today. The Roman Catholics and the Protestants persecuted each other. Even now there are some States in existence where there are discriminations made and bars imposed against a particular class. Thank God, we are not starting in those days. We are starting in the days when there is no discrimination, no distinction between one community and another, no discrimination between one caste or creed and another. We are starting with this fundamental principle that we are all citizens and equal citizens of one State.
The heirs of Jinnah’s Pakistan have failed to live up to the expectations of the nations founding fathers. Today’s attacks on Ahmedi “worship places”, was despicable and deserved not only our sympathies with the families of the victims; but our unequivocal condemnation of such barbarism.
However, that too seems too much to ask for.
What filled our television screens and the blogosphere were commentaries on whether Ahmedi worship places can be called mosques or not. Whether we can recognize mid-Friday worship at these venues as Friday prayers or not. And to my utter disgust and disappointment some comments that suggested that the victims, due to their beliefs have brought upon themselves such senseless violence.
Predictably, we have claims of foreign influence, nefarious and maligned conspiracies, and actions by “hidden hands” etc. However, while everyone seems to have an opinion on what transpired in Lahore, several people find it extremely hard to condemn without reservation the murder of innocent people. Words of condemnation are followed by a caveat.
Are we as a society becoming guilty of tolerating violence? Why are some forms of criminality tolerated while others considered unforgivable?
Regardless of the beliefs of the victims, is it not a crime to carry weapons, enter private property and cause bodily and material destruction? Whether or not the perpetrators of the attack are the Taliban or “foreign agents” is beside the point. It does not excuse the state from its responsibility to protect its citizens?
Today’s attacks illustrate how on the one hand the state continues to underestimated the strength and determination of terrorists, and how gullible a nation we are that believes statements by the government and military that progress is being made in the fight against miscreants. Victims of today’s attack would be hardly convinced.
Further, would a representative of the state care to explain how gunmen were able to carry weapons and explosives without being challenged at any of the checkpoints that have been erected? How were two of the terrorists able to escape when the perimeter should have been cordoned off?
We complain about civilian deaths at the hands of US drone attacks. We demand that our citizens receive the same protections without reservation or discrimination. We condemn atrocities committed against Muslim’s in India. Yet when it comes to our fellow citizens, we are increasingly intolerant towards them, and tolerant of violence against them.
It’s time to call a spade, a spade. There can be no half measures, no notions of acceptable violence and criminality. We as a society have become increasingly adept at marginalizing minorities; that when crimes are perpetrated against them our condemnation and outrage seems muted.
This post was submitted by Nadir El-Edroos.
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Pakistan's Medieval Constitution
6/21/10
It is the only Muslim nation to explicitly define who is or is not a 'Muslim.'
In the early hours of May 28, Khalid Solangi was shaken awake by his wife. She told him that she'd heard news of a bloody attack on two Ahmadi mosques in Pakistan. Khalid's older brother, an Ahmadi Muslim American, had recently flown to Lahore for a wedding and they feared he was one of the victims. "My wife said to me, 'Your brother has never missed the Friday prayer.'"
And so Khalid dialed his sister-in-law's number. She confirmed the worst: Her husband had called from his cellphone minutes earlier, asking her to pray for him and the others trapped inside the mosque. "The next thing we heard was that my brother had been martyred," said Khalid. "He had gone to Pakistan for a wedding. He didn't even live there."
When the dust from the bombs settled and the Taliban gunmen stopped their shooting, nearly 100 innocent Muslims lay dead inside the mosques where they had gathered for Friday prayer. This wasn't the first act of terror committed against this minority Muslim sect.
Since 1953, when the first anti-Ahmadi riots broke out in newly independent Pakistan, the Ahmadi community has lived under constant threat. In 1974, Pakistan amended its constitution to declare Ahmadis non-Muslims.
Ten years later, among a slew of anti-blasphemy laws—one of them famously known as "Ordinance XX"—the military dictator Zia ul-Haq made it a crime for Ahmadis to call themselves Muslims. They were forbidden from declaring their faith publicly, using the traditional Islamic greeting, and referring to their places of worship as mosques. In short, virtually any public act of worship or devotion by an Ahmadi can be treated as a criminal offense punishable by death.
Unsurprisingly, attacks on the Ahmadi community followed. In 2005 eight Ahmadis were gunned down in a mosque in a small town in Punjab, Pakistan's most populous province. A year later a mob burned down Ahmadi homes and shops in a small village in the province, forcing more than a 100 Ahmadis to flee.
Last winter, while I was home in Lahore, I drove to a beige building near my house to get my passport renewed. The officer, in a small effort to assist me, made Xs next to the lines that needed my signature. First I signed the badly photocopied sheet, again and again. Then I found myself being asked to confirm that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad—a 19th century Punjabi reformer and founder of the Ahmadi movement—was an "imposter."
This is standard. Every Pakistani Muslim applying for a passport must sign a statement deriding Ahmad, but I had forgotten about the procedure.
I asked the officer what would happen if I didn't sign above the line. He looked at me blankly: "You don't want passport?"
Later that day I went with my friends to a restaurant in Old Lahore—the city's historic quarter—where cramped alleys lead to centuries-old Mughal mosques, forts and gateways. We ate kebabs and shared a hookah. On our way home, passing Lahore's busiest road, I saw a banner on a building facing the Lahore High Court: "Jews, Christians and Ahmadis are enemies of Islam." We passed a patch of grass where a bronze statue of Queen Victoria had once stood. It has been replaced by a tall glass box containing a Quran.
That the Ahmadi movement agrees with every tenet of Islam, save the additional belief that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad came to the Muslim community as a promised messiah, is irrelevant. The legal system has left minorities such as Christians and Hindus, and within Islam, Ahmadis and Shiites, socially and politically isolated.
Routinely, the graffiti along Lahore's stylish boulevards will proclaim that Shiites are infidels. More than 100 Christian houses were burned in a town in central Pakistan last year over a claim that a Christian had defiled the Quran. That same year, 37 Ahmadis were charged under the blasphemy laws.
Point Blank: Ahmadis are heretics (worthy of killing), more Ahmadi deaths to follow
http://www.express.com.pk/images/NP_LHE/20100617/S...
What's wrong with these anchors? In another country they would have been arrested by now for incitement to death but in Pakistan its supposed to be a good thing.
I never really cared for Ahmadis
http://tribune.com.pk/story/21267/i-never-really-c...
yeah we know and understand why you bash Islam and Muslims.
jibran says: - June 16, 2010 at 7:14 am Hakeem, Maulana diesel wields power??? His own voters stopped praying behind him. This jacka$$ smokes the same thing you do. He blows the same thing as Amir Mughal L@@see blows, Zardari.
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Dear Jibran,
Voters of Mawlana Fazlur Rehman are mostly Deobandis now read what Deobandis says about Jamat-e-Islami!!!
Do read Khilafat o Malookiyat [original version and several issues of Tarjumnaul Quran] by Mawdudi Calamity again and differentiate between History and Tabbarrah. Mawdudi, his deviant books and his deviants followers of Jamat-e-Islami were thoroughly exposed by not ILLITERATE Barelvis but leading Deobandi and Wahabi Maulvis read the following books on Mawdudi’s Tabbarah on Sihaba Kiram and Prophets [PBUT].
There is book written “Khilafat wa Malookiyat Ki Tareekhi Aur Shariee Haisiyat [Authenticity and Relity of Caliphat and Kingdom by Mawdudui] by Hafiz Salahuddin Yousuf [Editor of Weekly Eitisaam, Lahore Pakistan , he is a Salafi Scholar and if you get that book then please note that in preface following Deobandi and even Barelvi Scholar praised the above book on the refutation ofr Mawdudi's Deviant and Blasphemic Beliefs regarding the Companions of Prophet Mohammad. You have already praised Deobandi Mullahs in one of your mail and following Mullahs [not ordinary Jahil Taliban] praised the book:
1 – Mufti Muhammad Shafi Usmani [Deobandi]
2 – Justice Taqi Usmani [Deobandi]
3 – Maulana Ziauddin Islahi [Daar ul Musanifeen Azam Garh India]
4 – Maulana Yousuf Ludhiyanvi [Binnori Town - Deobandi]
5 – Maulana Ghulamullah Khan [Rawalpindi - Deobandi]
6 – Dr Israr Ahmed [Former Deputy of Mawdudi]
7 – Maulana Amee Ahsan Islahi [Former number 2 of Mawdudi]
8 – Agha Shoorish Kashmiri [Noted Scholar and Journalist]
9 – Maulana Manzoor Naimani [One of the founder of Jamat-e-Islami and Deobandi scholar and also refuted Mawdudi in his book on Islamic Revolution of Iran]
10 – Safi ur Rahman Mubarakpuri [Author of Prophet Mohammad - PBUH's biography Ar Raheeq Al Makhtoom and he is an Indian Scholar and a Salafi]
11 – Yousuf Saleem Chishti [Deobandi Sufi Scholar]
12 – Maulana Abul Hasan Nadvi [Former Head of Darul Ulomm Deoband and Member Board of Medina University Saudi Arabia]
These are not some illiterate Deobandi Ulema:
1 – Maulana Yousuf Ludhiyanvi – Binnori Town refuted Mawdudi.
2 – Mawlana Yousuf Binnori – Founder of Binnori Town refuted Mawdudi
3 – Mawlana Abdul Majid Daryabadi pupil of Ashraf Ali Thanwi refuted Mawdudi.
Abul Ala Maudoodi and his party have been the subject of fatwas by Ulama of nearly every sect.
Mufti Muhzar-ullah, of Jami Fatehpuri in Delhi, wrote in his fatwa:
“On the very face of it, these things [beliefs of Maudoodi’s party] exclude a Muslim from the Sunnis, and lead to divisions among the believers, and is the basis of making a new sect. But looking closely, these things take one to heresy. In this case, they do not make a new sect, but result in one’s entry into the group of apostates.”
Maulana Hafiz-ullah of Aligarh has written:
“Whatever was the position of the Zarar mosque, similar is the position of this [i.e. Maudoodi’s] party.”
[Note: The Zarar mosque was a mosque built by some hypocrite Muslims in Madina during the Holy Prophet’s time for the purpose of conspiring against Islam].
The word kufr is used about the Zarar mosque in the Holy Quran. Hence the same word applies to these people.
Maulana Izaz Ali, Deobandi, wrote in his fatwa:
“I consider this [i.e. Maudoodi’s] party to be even more harmful for the faith of the Muslims than are the Ahmadis.”
Mufti Sayyid Mahdi Hasan, President-Mufti of the theological school at Deoband, writes in his fatwa:
“If an Imam of a mosque agrees with the views of Maudoodi, it is a hateful matter to pray behind him.”
Maulana Husain Ahmad Madani (Deobandi) wrote in a letter to Maudoodi:
“Your ‘Islamic’ movement is against the righteous tradition in Islam. It is like the [extremist] sects of old such as Mu‘tazila, Khwarij and Rafiz. It resembles modern sects such as Qadiani, Chakralvi [deniers of Hadith], Naturi [rationalist], and Baha’i [i.e. the Baha’i religion]. It seeks to make a new Islam. It is based on principles, beliefs and practices which are against the Sunnis and Islam.”
The Committee of Ulama of Maulana Ahmad Ali wrote in a poster against Maudoodi:
“His reasoning is devilry against the Quran.”
It is then added:
“May God save all Muslims from Maudoodi and the evil and deceit of his so-called Islamic Party.”
The Mawdudi Calamity! By Maulana Yusuf Ludhiyanwi (RA)
http://www.central-mosque.com/aqeedah/Mawdudi.htm
The writer of the article, well-recognised by the non-Arab as well as Arab Ulama and a well recognised expert in Firqa-e-Baatila (deviated sects), Moulana Muhammad Yusuf Ludhianwi (RA), has maintained his intellectual honesty by fulfilling his scholarly responsibility of pointing out (criticizing) Mr. Mawdudi. The writer is concerned that Mr. Mawdudi has attacked the very fiber and backbone of Islam by criticizing the illustrious Prophets and building a wall between the Ummah and the Sahaaba (Radhiallaahu Anhum). In his constitution, Mr. Mawdudi says, 'No human should be made a measure of truth besides Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam).'. but Allah Ta'ala clearly declares the Sahaaba (Radhiallaahu Anhum) as a measure of truth in the innumerable verses of the Qur'aan NS in particular, Chapter 2 verse 13 and chapter 48 (Fath), Verse 29.
jibran says: – June 16, 2010 at 7:14 am Hakeem, Maulana diesel wields power??? His own voters stopped praying behind him. This jacka$$ smokes the same thing you do. He blows the same thing as Amir Mughal L@@see blows, Zardari. jibran says:
June 16, 2010 at 7:15 am yeah we know and understand why you bash Islam and Muslims.
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MMA and Barelvi Fatwa against Deobandis and Ahl-e-Hadith:
Here lies the so-called Muslim Ummah! - 3 READ AND LAMENT
"Fatwa of three hundred Ulama against Deobandis
http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2008/11/here-lies...
jibran says: – June 16, 2010 at 7:14 am Hakeem, Maulana diesel wields power??? His own voters stopped praying behind him. This jacka$$ smokes the same thing you do. He blows the same thing as Amir Mughal L@@see blows, Zardari. jibran says: June 16, 2010 at 7:15 am yeah we know and understand why you bash Islam and Muslims.
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Dear Jibran read the following Gems from books which are taught in Deoband and Bareli Madressahs for your spiritual uplift.
What I have learned through different sources that these Deobandis and Barelvis are basically the same with minor differences they both allegedly follow the Fiqh [Attributed to Imam Abu Haneefah] Hanafi and his followers and books these Deobandi and Barelvi read, quotes of which are as under:
Radd al-Muhtar ala ad-Dur al-Mukhtar is a book on Islam by 19th century Hanafi Scholar Ibn Abidin. A commentary on Imam al-Haskafi's Durr al-Mukhtar, it is commonly known as Radd al-Muhtar. It is said to be a compilation of the great Fatwas of Imam Abu Hanifa [May Allah have mercy on his soul], and Hidayah is the name of a famous Hanafi juridical work by Burhan-ud-din Ali bin Abi Bakr al-Marghinani (1152-1197) which is considered widely authoritative as a guide to Fiqh amongst Muslims in Central Asia, Afghanistan and India, and is the basis for much of the Anglo-Islamic law in India and Pakistan.
Now read the excerpts from these two Books through which Deobandi and Barelvi Calamity in Pakistan want to Implement Islamic Law. Rampant Lal Mosque Anarchist, Binori Town, Madressah Haqqania, Talibans and other such Anarchist called these perversions mentioned below The Islamic Law!
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1 - Be the curse of Allah be on those who reject Imam Abu Hanifa (Muqadimah dar Mukhtar)
2 - When The Prophet Issa [Jesus - PBUH] will come back he will follow the Madhab [Fiqh] of Abu Hanifa (Muqadimah dar Mukhtar)
3 - Khidr spent 30 years to learn knowledge from Abu Hanifa, then Qushayri learnt from Khidr during 3 years and he wrote more than 1000 books and put them in a box in the sea. When Isa aley salam will take these books and act upon them. (Muqadimah dar Mukhtar)
3 - Is someone pays a woman to do zina [adultery] , there is no hadd [no punishment] ( Dar Mukhtar, kitab Hudud, fatawa khaniyah misr vol 3 p 508, kanz daqaiq ed deoband p 180, and this fatwa is attributed to Imam Abu Hanifa while his two students say there is hadd [Adultery Law]. It is well known that the hanafi books of fiqh there is no Chain of Narration [isnad] to their Imam)
4 - The salary of the prostitute is halal [lawful] (Chalpi shara Wiqayah)
5 - If he pays a woman to do zina or wati [Adultery or Intercourse] or if he says I will give you so much dirham or she says give me so much, there is no had [no punishment under Adultery Law] (Alamgiri, vol 2 p 168)
6 - If someone does jima [intercourse] with an animal or with a dead or a young girl and there is no inzal [ejaculation] , then ghusl [bathe] is not wajib [obligatory] (Dar Mukhtar Kitab taharah, masail ghusl, aussi Alamgiri, Kitab taharah)
7 - If someone does sodomy with a woman who fasts or a man who fasts, their fast is not broken (Hidayah, Kitab Sawm)
8 - If a young boy of 10 does Jima [intercourse] with a balighah [adult] Woman, there is no Ghusl [bathe]( Alamgiri Kitab taharah)
9 - If someone enters his penis in his dubur (anus), then ghusl is not obligatory (Dar Mukhtar Kitab taharah Masail Ghusl)
10 - If a man in his dubur [anus] or a woman in her vagina enters the penis of the dead, or his finger, or wood, there is no ghusl [bathe](Hidayah Kitab Taharah)
11 - If someone enters the penis of an animal in her vagina or dubur [anus], the ghusl [bathe] is not wajib [obligatory] (Dar Mukhtar Kitab Taharah Masail Ghusl)
12 - If someone enters the penis of a boy without desire in her vagina or dubur [anus], the ghusl [bathe] is not wajib [obligatory] (Dar Mukhtar Kitab taharah Masail Ghusl)
13 - After doing Jima [Intercourse] with a young girl, it is not necessary to clean his penis (Dar Mukhtar Kitab taharah Masail Ghusl)
14 - If someone does jima [intercourse] with a virgin and the maidenhead is not broken, ghusl [bathe] is not wajib [obligatory] (Dar Mukhtar Kitab taharah Masail Ghusl)
15 - If someone does wati [intercourse] in the dubur [have anal sex or commit bestiality] of an animal or in his anus and there is no inzal, then Ghusl [bathe] is not wajib [obligatory] (Hidayah kitab taharah)
16 - If the balighah woman [adult woman] does wati [intercourse] with a young boy or with a crazy, then the woman has no hadd [Punishment for Adultery] (Dar Mukhtar Kitab hudud)
17 - If someone does wati [intercourse] with a non balighah woman [non adult woman], or with a dead or an animal, there is no hadd [punishment] (Dar Mukhtar Kitab hudud)
18 - If someone does zina [adultery] with the salve of his child or great child, there is no hadd (Dar Mukhtar Kitab hudud)
19 - If someone does zina [adultery] with the slave of grand father or grand mother, there is no Hadd [Punishment for Adultery](Dar Mukhtar Kitab hudud)
20 - If someone has a slave in rahn (security for loan) and he does zina [adultery], there is no hadd [Punishment for Adultery] (Dar Mukhtar Kitab hudud)
21 - If someone does nikah [Marriage] with a mahram [sister, mother or daughter or real blood aunt] for ever woman and consider it halal [lawful], there is no hadd [Punishment for Adultery](Dar Mukhtar Kitab hudud)
22 - The woman that are for ever forbidden, and he does nikah and he even if he considers that haram [Unlawful] , there is no hadd [Punishment for Adultery] (Dar Mukhtar Kitab hudud, et Alamgiri who attribute that to Imam Abu Hanifa)
23 - If he does nikah [marriage] with a woman and joins in nikah his wife’s sister or mother, there is no hadd [Punishment for Adultery]
(Alamgiri)
24 - If he does temporary marriage [Muta'ah] and he considers that haram [Unlawful], there is no hadd [[Punishment for Adultery] (Alamgiri)
25 - If someone does nikah with a woman who is married before, and he knows she has a husband and it is haram [Unlawful] , there is no hadd [Punishment for Adultery] Fatawa Khaniya misr vol 3 p 508)
26 - There is no hadd [Punishment for Adultery] of zina [Adultery] for the one who cannot speak, neither any hadd [Punishment for Adultery] for something else, even if the witness are present and he admits with isharah [gesture] or by writing (Alamgiri misr, vol 2 p 168)
27 - If someone kidnaps a slave, does zina [Adultery] and pay his responsible [Owner] for her price, there is no hadd [Punishment for Adultery] (Dar Mukhtar Kitab hudud)
28 - If someone gives permission to another to do zina [Intercourse] with his slave, there is no hadd [Punishment for Adultery] (Alamgiri vol 2 p 169)
29 - If the Khalifah or the imam or the king does zina [ADULTERY] there is no hadd [PUNISHMENT] (Dar Mukhtar Kitab hudud) [also in Hidaya and that Hidaya is being taught in Pakistani Madressah]
30 - There is no hadd for sodomy [Anal Intercourse] (Dar Mukhtar Kitab hudud)
31 - If someone does zina [ADULTERY] in dar ul harb [Land/Country of Infidels] or in the land of revolted people, there is no hadd [PUNISHMENT] (Dar Mukhtar Kitab hudud)
32 - The muslim can take riba [Interest] from a Infidel, in dar ul harb [Land/Country of Infidels] (Dar Mukhtar vol 4 p 209)
33 - This is also true for the one who becomes muslim and does not do Hijrah, whe can take riba from him( Dar Mukhtar vol 4 p 210)
34 - If someone prays holding a dog in his hands, his prayer is not fasid [INVALID] (Dar Mukhtar misr vol 1 p 153)
35 - If someone in prayer watches the private part of a woman, his prayer [Salat] is not broken [means it will remain valid] ( Maraqi Al falah misr vol 1 p 200)
36 - If someone watches at book of fiqh during prayer, is prayer is not broken. ( Alamgiri vol,1 p 106)
37 - If someone prays and holds the Quran and reads from it, is prayer is fasid [Invalid] (Dar Mukhtar vol 1 p 641)
38 - If in the conditions of Imam in the first cases there is equality, then The one whose wife is more beautiful ( Dar Mukhtar vol 1 p 412)
39 - Then the one who has the biggest head and the shortest member [Penis](Dar Mukhtar vol 1 p 412)
40 - The meaning of member is penis (Rad Mukhtar Sharh Dar Mukthar, p 413)
41 - The one who does watch the vagina of a woman in a miror or in water, then the mother of this woman is forbidden to him (Dur Mukhtar, Kitab Nikah, fasl fil Muharamat)
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Why don't Mullah declare that Iqbal was Kaafir as well because Iqbal denied second coming of Prophet Jesus [PBUH] and Imam Mehdi [Ummah hasn't decided whthere he will be Shia or Sunni]:
Witness Divine descent on your heart’ tower,
Give up the wait for Mahdi or the Messiah!
Allama Iqbal has a very saying about Mehdi’s Image.
thay tu woh aa’ba tumharay tum kya ho
haath per haath dharay muntazir-e-farda ho
Iqbal,
howi jis key khudi pehlay baidar, hay wohi mehdi
He wrote in a poem in Armaghan-e-Hijaz
“Is the son of Mary dead, or does he live?
Are Divine attributes separate from God, or one with His Person?... See More
Is the Coming one the Nazarene Jesus, or a Mujaddid having the son of Mary’s qualities?
Are the Divine words created, or pre-existing from eternity, In which belief does lie the salvation of the Ummah?
Are not sufficient for the Muslims today, These Lat and Manat [idols] carved out by theology.”
One of the letter of Allama Iqbal from Iqbal Nama has this text:
“I can only tell you what I believe. I consider the Hadith reports about the Mahdi, the coming Messiah, and mujaddidiyya, to be derived from Persian and non-Arab conceptions. They have no connection with Arab concepts or the true spirit of the Quran.”
In Baqiyat Iqbal, p. 451... See More
“Look for the descent of God upon the minaret of your own heart,
And give up waiting even for the Mahdi or Jesus.”
In Khutba-e-Madras
“As far as I understand the meaning of this movement, the Ahmadis believe that Jesus died the death of a mortal human being, and the return of the Messiah refers to a person who bears spiritual similarity to him. This belief gives this movement a rational appearance.”
Sheikh M Ikram in one of his books Mauj Kausar, Aab-e-Kausar and Rood-e-Kausar had written that if Hanafis Law Book Fatawa-e-Alamgiri's Apostasy Law is fully implemented then nobody would remain Muslims in the Sub Continent.
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Time for Laugh
ایک ہی ہوں مسلم حرام کی پاسبانی کے لیہ
نیل کے ساحل سے لے کر تابخا کے کاشغر تک “سب کافر ہیں
"Mullahs in Pakistan wield power? dohhh.."
@jibran:
See this news and check out who is wielding power on the supposed most prominent leader of Pakistan;
http://www.thenews.com.pk/daily_detail.asp?id=2448...
What about Maulana diesel who gets away with his wishes?
Hypocrisy of Jamat-e-Islami/MMA, Mullahs & Secular Judiciary of Pakistan. http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2009/04/hypocrisy...
Maulana Fazlur Rehman and Opportunism.
http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2008/11/maulana-f...
Hakeem,
Maulana diesel wields power??? His own voters stopped praying behind him.
This jacka$$ smokes the same thing you do. He blows the same thing as Amir Mughal L@@see blows, Zardari.
jibran says: - June 16, 2010 at 7:14 am Hakeem, Maulana diesel wields power??? His own voters stopped praying behind him.
This jacka$$ smokes the same thing you do. He blows the same thing as Amir Mughal L@@see blows, Zardari.
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Dear Jibran,
When did this happen? When he was leading the MMA or now? Any news clipping.
jibran says: – June 16, 2010 at 7:14 am Hakeem, Maulana diesel wields power??? His own voters stopped praying behind him. This jacka$$ smokes the same thing you do. He blows the same thing as Amir Mughal L@@see blows, Zardari. jibran says: June 16, 2010 at 7:15 am yeah we know and understand why you bash Islam and Muslims.
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Dear Jibran Sahab,
Time for you to cry on Blasphemy uttered by Deobandi Mullahs in their filthy books.
Do not try to understand the Qur'ân ever. Else, you will go astray. Fifteen “Uloom” (sciences) are required to understand the Book. (“Maulana” Zakaria Kandhalwi, Fazael Amaal, p.2)
Do not read the Qur'ân with understanding, you will go astray. (Fazaael Aamal, “Maulana” Ashraf Ali Thanwi, p. 216)
It is mentioned in Aamaal-e-Qur'aani, p. 134 by Maulana Ashraf Ali Thanwi [published by Jasim Book Depot, Urdu Bazaar, Jama Masjid, Delhi] that if a woman has excessive menstrual bleeding, the verse (Surah Al-'Imran: 3:144) should be written on three different pieces of paper, one tied on her right and the other on her left and the third piece of paper with the Qur'ânic verse to be hung below the naval. This verse of the Qur'aan, "Muhammad (sallallahu alaihe wa-sallam) is no more than a Messenger, and indeed (many) Messengers have passed away before him. If he dies or is killed, will you then turn back on your heels (as disbelievers)? And he who turns back on his heels, not the least harm will he do to Allah, and Allah will give reward to those who are grateful." [Surah Al-'Imran: 3:144]
The holy messenger came to Shah Waliullah (in the 18 century!) and said, “Why do you worry? Your children are the same as mine.” (Ashraf Ali Thanwi, Hikayat-ul-Awlia)
The prophet laid the foundation of Darul-Uloom, Deoband, India (in the 19th century) He comes to check accounts of the school. He has learnt the Urdu language. (Mubasshirat-e-Darul Uloom, and Deoband Number of the Darul-Uloom)
When Shah Waliullah was in his mother’s womb, she said a prayer. Two tiny hands (too) appeared for prayer. She was frightened. Her husband said, "You have Qutubul-Aqtab (Wali of Walis) in your womb (Hikayat-e-Awlia, p. 17 Ashraf Ali Thanwi) What a break-through!
The prophet laid the foundation of Darul-Uloom, Deoband, India (in the 19th century) He comes to check accounts of the school. He has learnt the Urdu language. (Mubasshirat-e-Darul Uloom, and Deoband Number of the Darul-Uloom)
Jibran Sahab,
Dil aur Jigar Tham kar parh lijay:
The advent of another Prophet is quite possible. (Mulla Abdul Hai Farangi Mahli and Mulla Qasim Nanotwi, Tahzeer-in-Nas, p.34, Athar Ibn Abbas, p.16) Why blame Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani only?
Risala Tazkara of Darul-uloom Deoband of 1965 claims: Anyone suffering from malaria who took dust from the grave of “Maulana” Yaqoob Nanotwi and tied this dust to his body, found instant relief.
Allaah cuts jokes with the Ulama of Deoband. One of them went to a well for “Wudu” (Ablution) He lowered the bucket in the well. It came back full of silver. The Holy man said to Allaah: Don’t kid around! I am getting late for prayers. He lowered the bucket in again and this time it came back full of gold. (Risala Tazkara of Darul-uloom Deoband of April 1965)
June 16, 2010 at 8:58 am jibran says: – June 16, 2010 at 7:14 am Hakeem, Maulana diesel wields power??? His own voters stopped praying behind him. This jacka$$ smokes the same thing you do. He blows the same thing as Amir Mughal L@@see blows, Zardari. jibran says: June 16, 2010 at 7:15 am yeah we know and understand why you bash Islam and Muslims.
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Dear Jibran Sahab,
Aamaal-e-Qur’aani, p. 134 by Maulana Ashraf Ali Thanwi [published by Jasim Book Depot, Urdu Bazaar, Jama Masjid, Delhi] The book and other books used by Deobandis and Barelvi book Shama Shabistan-e-Raza by Ahmed Raza Khan Barelvi have many Chilla, Wazeefa and Black Magic Tricks and Taweez Ganda through using Quran [I have read every single one of them] and for Magic following is the Punishment as per Islamic Law.
Do you even know the penalty of practicing Black Magic/Sorcery as per Islam? Mullahs issue Fatwa of Murder from Pulpit whereas practicing Magic is punishable by Death in Islam.
I wonder have you read Deobandi's Magic Books e.g. Aaml-e-Qurani/Beheshti Zewar, Maktoobat-e-Biyaz Yaqoobi etc. or Barelvi Magic Book name Shama Shabistan-e-Raza ... See Moreby Ahmed Raza Khan Barelvi.
I wont quote Fatwa of Mullahs but commandment from Prophet Mohammad [PBUH]
“The hadd (prescribed punishment) for the practitioner of magic is a blow with the sword (i.e., execution).” (Sunnan Tirmidhi, Daaraqutni, Mustadrak al-Haakim, Sunan al Bayhaqi]
Justice Taqi Usmani and Rafi Usmani's Publication House "Daarul Ishaat" publish such filthy books and earn million.
Aamir Mughal: I think you are quoting the Fazail-e-Amal on reading the Quran out of context.
I did some online research because i was surprised at what you claimed was written in the Tableeghi Jamaat books.
This is from the English Translation of "Virtues of Quran" written by Maulana Zakariyah:
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"Hadhrat Ibn Mas'ood (Radhiyallaho anho) said, "If you
seek knowledge, you should meditate on the meanings of
the Qur'an, because it embodies the history of former as
well as of latter times." It is, however, essential to observe the prerequisites for interpreting the Qur'an. An unbecoming present-day fashion is that even those who possess little or no knowledge of Arabic vocabulary offer their personal opinion on the basis of vernacular translations of the Qur'an. Specialists have laid down that any one attempting a commentary of the Holy Qur'an should be well versed in fifteen subjects. These, as briefly given below, will show that it is not possible for everybody to understand the underlying significance and real meanings of the Holy Qur'an." //
It says that anyone attempting a COMMENTARY on the Quran should have knowledge of these 15 subjects. These subjects are related to understanding of the Arabic language. And i think this is not an unreasonable expectation from anyone who wants to give commentaries on the Quran.
Plus the text says that 'specialists say' this. It does not portray this as a religious injunction that must be followed at all costs.
Those interested can read the entire text here:
http://www.islamibayanaat.com/EnglishLiterature/En... (Go to Page 15 for this part mentioned above)
All the books (English translations) of Fazail-e-Amal are here:
And i am not a member of the tableeghi jamaat.
Al says: June 16, 2010 at 6:39 pm And i am not a member of the tableeghi jamaat.
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Dear Al,
I was addressing the query of Mr Jibran.
Mughal: Acutally i had a previous comment that is stuck in moderation. Read that & you will understand.
Censorship at Express -- which century do we live in?
Is Pakistan like Israel?
http://tribune.com.pk/story/20809/is-pakistan-like...
Hakeem Sahab,
IMHO. Pakistan's founders were Lawyers and Landlords whereas Israel' Founders were Wanted Terrorists in Europe. Entry of Menachem Begin, Yitzhak Shamir, and countless others in Graet Britain was banned.
Hakeem,
This writer, Khaled Ahmed is like other Gand@@ Mufakkirs.
Here is a typical statement of such *mufakkirs*...
Mullahs in Pakistan and rabbis in Israel wield power...
Mullahs in Pakistan wield power? dohhh..
I guess he thinks Zardari as Mullah, he thinks Altaf Hussain as Mullah, he thinks of leaders of ANP as Mullah and Rahman Dakait as Mullah or does he think Kiyani as Mullah?
I don't know what is the criteria to write in English? Are you taught to ridicule Mullahs and Islam before learning abc or after learning the ABC?
Is Pakistan like Israel or North Korea?
http://tribune.com.pk/story/19048/is-pakistan-like...
Read this “DEOBANDI KUFR [DISBELIEF] ” and you will certainly Laugh: “One person asked Khidr that,”Have you ever seen any wali who is better than you?” Khidr replied, “Yes, I have. I once visited the mosque of the Prophet. I saw Imaam Abdur Razzaq Muhaddith and he was teaching ahadith. The crowd and I listened to the ahadith from him. In one corner… See More of the masjid there was a youngster sitting who had kept his head between his knees away from the crowd. I said, Do you not see that ahadith of the Prophet are being taught? Why don’t you also attend the circle? He neither lifted his head nor did he look at me and said, “In that place are those who listen to ahadith from the slave of Razzaq and here are those who listen to ahadith from the Razzaq!” Hadhrat Khidr said that, “If you are indeed speaking the truth then tell who am I? He raised his head and said that, “If I am not mistaken, then you are Khidr.” Hadhrat Khidr then said, “From this I came to know that there are such wali of Allaah whom even I cannot recognize.”"
Allaahu Akbar! The pir (please notice that he has no name, no history and no background whatsoever. Just wild imaginations of Tableeghi Jamaa’at) in the above fable did not even raise his head and answered the questions of Khidr! And he listens to the Hadith from Allaah? The revelations comes down upon him? If Mirza Ghulam Qadiani makes such a … See Moreclaim all the scholars of Deobandh label him a kafir but what about the Kufr that is in their own books? Barelvis and Deobandi Tableeghi Jamaat – 3 http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2008/10/barelvis-...
A critical note by Saudis on Deobandis [see how united the UMMAH is?] lol
The advent of another Prophet is quite possible. (Mulla Abdul Hai Farangi Mahli and Mulla Qasim Nanotwi [one of the founder of Deoband, Tahzeer-in-Nas, p.34, Athar Ibn Abbas, p.16)
Why blame Mirza when there were so many Mirza in Deoband.
Further to above, by the way i have noticed that Mr. Qadri's tone has softened a bit. He seems to have shifted , slightly, from HATE and JIHADI and TYPICAL TALIBAN type rhetoric to Knowledge-base discussions etc.
May be its just me but if you check the earlier videos of Mr Qadri from 80s and 90s and then recent ones, there is slight change in his tone.
@Nadir El-Edroos
A great write-up and very daring indeed to call a spade, a spade. But those who are led astray by God himself, as he himself says in his Quran, becomes immune to guidance. This is such a submissive nation that they would stand for hours together, along with women and children in the hot sun, without any grudge even, to let pass a gaudy ruler who monopolizes a public road for hours by clamping what the police-walas call a 'root'.
I wonder why these 'Piply' and 'Nawazi' rulers are afraid to call an Ahmadi sajidah-gaah, a masjid. Allah has killed their very 'mat'(Sense), it seems.
An colleague of mine took me once to Rabwah. I met a friend of mine their. Just when we were talking there was 'Azaan', coming from the Ahmadi mosque which was not perhaps banned by then. My friend asked me whether we might offer prayer with Ahmadies in their mosque. I said,"Why not: Does not the Quran say 'Warkaoo marraakaein' (Bow with those who bow before God)?"
As regards 'Masjid'it literally means 'a place for prostration (sajida)' by any body with whatever belief. In fact in Islam the entire face of earth has been declared as 'masjid'. Then how can any place where an Ahmadi offers 'sajida', not a 'masjid'.
But what use all this arguing with those who have lost all sense by being led astray in the name of Allah?
Turning outrage into courage
http://tribune.com.pk/story/21017/turning-outrage-...
More Mullahs: now watch the reality of Tahirul Qadri who had declared that he won't participate in Election which he did [he had declared it Haram] and do watch how he offered Five Prayers behind Prophet Mohammad [PBUH] after 1400 years and met Hazrat Hasan Ibn Ali [May Allah be pleased with him] : Love Tahir-ul-Qadri (Promo) Quadri Sahab said that Prophet Mohammad [PBUH] visited Pakistan - Watch and Weep, Lament or Laugh on The Fantasies. Love Tahir-ul-Qadri (Promo) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ofn5Yj9RR2Q&fea...
Even More Mullahs: When he had declared that he cosnider it Haram to participate in Election 1989 then why did "this Liar" got himself elected in the first place - Vanity is the biggest Vice: Why Dr.Tahir ul Qadri Resigned from National Assembly of Pakistan ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNsq1mZUamo
Minhaj Secret Meeting Banned Video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9mrpKnavPM&fea...
These retards mullahz have no deen imaan . . . their only deen imaan is POWER and POSITION.
For it they can grow daadhi, act like an aalim and appear as namazi roze dar haaji etc.
This is a "notanki" to hijack people's faith and their sympathies.
Wake up pakistan and throw these 2 numbri munafiqs into ARABIAN SEA. . .
Only then IQBAL and JINNAH's PAKISTAN can be saved
MB says: – June 12, 2010 at 1:02 pm Aamir, Is there anyway we can throw these retard mullahz into ATLANTIC ocean peacefully ? They have hijacked JINNAH’s PAKISTAN completely.
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Mawdudi Sahab at his best Against Pakistan and Jinnah and Muhajirs too: http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs353....
One of the quote say that Participating in Elections is "Dog Race" what about Qazi Hussain, and Mian Tufail and JI under their leadership's participation in Election??? Who was Bull Dog and and who was Rabid Dog in that Race.....
Molvis issuing fatwas on Ahmadis in national press;
http://www.express.com.pk/epaper/PoPupwindow.aspx?...
This will get more Ahmadis killed.
Al says: - June 8, 2010 at 12:33 am This is just cherry picking history to suit the narrative that Maudidi(after the partition), the religious parties & the establishment wanted to & want to promote.
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"QUOTE"
Sayyid Abul A‘la Maudoodi - His views bearing on the Ahmadiyya Movement http://www.ahmadiyya.org/movement/maudoodi/index.h...
Scanned image of Maudoodi’s letter saying Lahore Ahmadiyya is a Muslim Group Page 1 (of 4) of the letter
(You can see that he has crossed out his old address, Hyderabad Deccan, on the printed letter head and written in Darus Salaam, Pathankot, Punjab in its place.)
http://www.ahmadiyya.org/movement/maudoodi/letter-...
The translation: The Urdu text of the above section of Maudoodi’s letter, in printed format, is given below: http://www.ahmadiyya.org/movement/maudoodi/letter....
Call a Spade, a Spade!
Al says: June 8, 2010 at 12:33 am This is just cherry picking history to suit the narrative that Maudidi(after the partition), the religious parties & the establishment wanted to & want to promote.
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Who is Muslim in Pakistan in the light of these Fatwas by the way. Which Muslim Ummah these Mullahs talk about: fatwa, deobandi kafir, brelvi kafir, ahle hadith kafir, kuttay, wahabi کافر http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X01htQUvKcQ&fea...!
Aamir,
Is there anyway we can throw these retard mullahz into ATLANTIC ocean peacefully ?
They have hijacked JINNAH's PAKISTAN completely.
Fatwa Manufacturing Industry of PAKISTAN:
http://ejang.jang.com.pk/6-11-2010/pic.asp?picname...
MB says: - June 12, 2010 at 1:02 pm Aamir, Is there anyway we can throw these retard mullahz into ATLANTIC ocean peacefully ? They have hijacked JINNAH’s PAKISTAN completely.
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Here is the answer for this present mess: Click the link and read the details of Corruption of Alleged Leaders of the so-called Muslim Ummah - Corrupt, Vile & Filthy: Arabs, Aal-e-Saud, & Wahhaabis. http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2010/06/corrupt-v...
Ahmadi massacre silence is dispiriting
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/belief/201...
Mawdudi, Jinnah and Pakistan??? [Part 5]
He accused Jinnah of not knowing the rudiments of Islam and condemned him for misguiding the Indian Muslims. Nationalism was incompatible with Islam [Reference: The Process of Islamic Revolution. by Sayyid Abul A'la Maududi]
If Pakistan was going to be a state where Western Democracy prevailed, it “will be as filthy (NA-PAKISTAN) as the other part” of the subcontinent. [Reference: Nationalism and India Sayyid Abul A'la Maududi]
Islam forbade the practice of imitation, and the adaptation of Western nationalism was nothing but imitation. “Muslim nationalist” is as contradictory a term as ‘chaste prostitute’ [Reference: Nationalism and India Sayyid Abul A'la Maududi]
He called the Muslim League leaders ‘morally dead’; they had no right to call their movement ‘Islamic’ [Musalman aur Maujuda Siyasi Kashmakash Sayyid Abul Ala Maududi Vol. III]
How Mawdudi insulted Prophets [PBUT] and Companions [May Allah be pleased with all of them] of Prophet Mohammad [PBUH]
Late. Maulana Muhammad Yoosuf Ludhianwi A literal translation of a letter entitled: "Tanqeed aur Haqqe Tanqeed" which appeared in the Dhul-Hijjah of the Bayanaat - Karachi
The Mawdudi Calamity! http://www.central-mosque.com/aqeedah/Mawdudi.htm
Even Mullahs were allergic to Mawdudi and Mawdudi, Jamat-e-Islami and their supporter's Kharji Ideology!
Most of the Blasphemous Narrations about Sihaba Kiram which are often quoted conveniently are basically in Khilafat O Malookiyat by Mawdudi who never knew the Status of Prophets [PBUT] and Companions [May Allah be pleased wwith all of them].
Mawdudi quoted Blasphemous narration after narration from Alleged Islamic History without even verifying the authenticity and concocted the so-called Political Islamist Ideology.
Do read Khilafat o Malookiyat [original version and several issues of Tarjumnaul Quran] by Mawdudi Calamity again and differentiate between History and Tabbarrah. Mawdudi, his deviant books and his deviants followers of Jamat-e-Islami were thoroughly exposed by not leading Deobandi and Wahabi Maulvis read the following books on Mawdudi’s Tabbarah on Sihaba Kiram and Prophets [PBUT].
There is book written “Khilafat wa Malookiyat Ki Tareekhi Aur Shariee Haisiyat [Authenticity and Relity of Caliphat and Kingdom by Mawdudui] by Hafiz Salahuddin Yousuf [Editor of Weekly Eitisaam, Lahore Pakistan , he is a Salafi Scholar and if you get that book then please note that in preface following Deobandi and even Barelvi Scholars praised the above book on the refutation ofr Mawdudi's Deviant and Blasphemic Beliefs regarding the Companions of Prophet Mohammad.
1 – Mufti Muhammad Shafi Usmani [Deobandi]
2 – Justice Taqi Usmani [Deobandi]
3 – Late. Maulana Ziauddin Islahi [Daar ul Musanifeen Azam Garh India]
4 – Late. Maulana Yousuf Ludhiyanvi [Binnori Town - Deobandi] - Refuted Mawdudi in letter entitled: “Tanqeed aur Haqqe Tanqeed” which appeared in Bayanaat – Karachi
5 – Late. Maulana Ghulamullah Khan [Rawalpindi - Deobandi]
6 – Late. Dr Israr Ahmed [Former Deputy of Mawdudi]
7 – Late. Maulana Ameen Ahsan Islahi [Former number 2 of Mawdudi]
8 – Late. Agha Shoorish Kashmiri [Noted Scholar and Journalist]
9 – Late. Maulana Manzoor Naimani [One of the founder of Jamat-e-Islami and Deobandi scholar and also refuted Mawdudi in his book on Islamic Revolution of Iran]
10 – Safi ur Rahman Mubarakpuri [Author of Prophet Mohammad - PBUH's biography Ar Raheeq Al Makhtoom and he is an Indian Scholar and a Salafi]
11 – Late. Yousuf Saleem Chishti [Deobandi Sufi Scholar]
12 – Late. Maulana Abul Hasan Nadvi [Former Head of Darul Ulomm Deoband and Member Board of Medina University Saudi Arabia]
13 – Late. Mawlana Yousuf Binnori – Founder of Binnori Town refuted Mawdudi
14 – Late. Mawlana Abdul Majid Daryabadi pupil of Ashraf Ali Thanwi refuted Mawdudi.
Aaamir Mughal L@@SEE,
Why do you quote the people you yourself reject?
Why not quote someone you adore?
jibran says: - June 16, 2010 at 7:08 am Aaamir Mughal L@@SEE,
Why do you quote the people you yourself reject?
Why not quote someone you adore?
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I feel like it because you like to use abusive language I like to quote Mullahs on Mullahs:
Fatwas of conformists against non-conformists
“The non-conformist (ghair muqallid) sect, whose distinctive outward manner [of prayer] in this country is saying Amen aloud, raising the hands [during the prayer], folding the arms on the chest, and reciting the Al-Hamd behind the Imam, are excluded from the Sunnis, and are like other misguided sects, because many of their beliefs and practices are opposed to those of the Sunnis. It is not permissible to pray behind them. To mix with them socially and sit with them, and to let them enter mosques at their pleasure, is prohibited in Islamic Shari‘ah.” (This bears the seals of nearly seventy Ulama. Reference the book: Arguments with regard to the expulsion of Wahabis from mosques, p. 8.)
“He who calls conformism (taqlid) as prohibited, and conformists as polytheists, is a kafir according to Islamic Shari‘ah, and in fact a murtadd [apostate].” (Book: Discipline of mosques with regard to the expulsion of mischief-makers from mosques)
“It is obligatory upon the Ulama and Muftis that, by merely hearing of such a thing, they should not hesitate to issue fatwas of heresy and apostasy. Otherwise, they themselves would be included among the apostates.” (ibid.)
Ahmad Raza Khan, the Barelvi leader, has quoted the beliefs of all sections of the non-conformists, and given the fatwa:
“All these groups are murtadd and kafir. He who doubts their being kafirs, is himself a kafir.”(Book Hisam al Haramain)
Hate Speech
A strong case can be made against the JI leader for fomenting aggression and religious persecution under the country’s laws regarding hate speech and incitement to violence. - Photo on file
The street power and political clout wielded by Pakistan’s religious right have resulted in the state and society being held hostage by extremist elements. The latter stop at nothing to further their agenda of inciting hatred, divisiveness and violence. The latest example is that of the Jamaat-i-Islami chief, Syed Munawwar Hasan, who during a sermon in Lahore on Friday threatened a fresh movement against the Ahmadi community if it “did not accept their minority status” and the government kept silent about “their blasphemous and unconstitutional activities”.
Mr Hasan did not specify any particular instance substantiating his charges, leading one to read his comments as hate speech and also as an attempt to blackmail the government into further victimising an already persecuted community. Given the incendiary passions the issue arouses, any call by religious parties in this context is certain to be attended by violence. A strong case can be made against the JI leader for fomenting aggression and religious persecution under the country’s laws regarding hate speech and incitement to violence.
Even beyond this particular case, it has now become a matter of urgency that the government show an active and uncompromising stance on the issue of hate speech and incitement to violence or other sorts of criminal activity. Pakistan’s polity is already rent by religious, ethnic and sectarian divisions. Allowing irresponsible and divisive opinions to be aired publicly will deepen these fissures. Once it begins, the process of religious, ethnic and other communities being pitted against one another will prove difficult to bring under control. Spiralling violence, particularly in view of other issues being faced by the country such as militancy and terrorism, can then be expected. It is in the interests of both the state and citizenry to take a stand against inflammatory hate speech and lobby for the prosecution of those who break the law.
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