Jahil Online Spreading Superstitions

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4 Man show Junaid Jamshed and Aamir Liaqat Part 1
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Jahil Online Strikes again and this time [around 1400 hours dated 13-03-2010] in a repeat program talking about Veil and Chadar and Baypardah Women on TV Channels whereas completely forgetting about the Role GEO TV is playing while Promoting "Indecency" . Who can forget GEO TV Role during Hudood Law Debate in General Musharraf's Tenure. GEO TV's Double Standard is beyond the comprehension of Pakistanis who are already confused courtesy Non-Stop Bombardment of Hypocrisy of GEO TV: Ansar Abbasi, Unveiled GEO TV Female Announcers/Newscasters/Hostess/Anchors & The News International. http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2009/04/ansar-abb...

Someone please point out to Jahil online that the grass is green too! Maybe cricket itself is a conspiracy against Pakistan.

impressive record keeping.thanks for updating about raja sahib mehmoodabad and abu al hassan isphahani.
ismailis are also shia...shia stopped the chain of imam while ismailis and bohras still maintained the supply line.

the words i said is specifically in the contest of the action and speeches of Quiad e Azam....should i quote those words? i wouldn't if i don't see people smearing the atmosphere in which pakistan is created and putting the question mark on the dedication of those who were the most sincere personalities in the entire hisory of pakistan. pakistan never saw the level of sincerity after them...
what are the words of Quiad e Azam.
Quaid-e-Azam said in his presidential address in 1940:
“It is extremely difficult to appreciate why our Hindu friends fail to understand the real nature of Islam and Hinduism. They are not religions in the strict sense of the word but are, in fact, different and distinct social orders… The Hindus and Muslims belong to two different religious philosophies, social customs, literatures. They belong to two different civilizations which are based mainly on conflicting ideas and conceptions. Their aspects of life and our life are different.”

In his speech at the Frontier Muslim League Conference on November 21, 1945, he said:
“We have to fight a double edged battle, one against the Hindu Congress and the British Imperialists, both of them being capitalists. The Muslims demand Pakistan where they could rule according to their own code of life and according to their own cultural growth, traditions and Islamic laws.”

In a message to NWFP Muslim Students Federation in April 1943, he said:
“You have asked me to give a message. What message can I give you? We have got the great message in the Quran for our guidance and enlightenment.”

In an Eid message to the nation in 1945, he said:
“Every Muslim knows that the injunctions of the Quran are not confined to religious and moral duties. Everyone except those who are ignorant, knows that the Quran is the general code of the Muslims. A religious, social, civil, commercial, military, judicial, criminal and penal code; it regulates everything from the ceremonies of religion to those of daily life; from the salvation of the soul to the health of the body; from the rights of all, to those of each individual; from morality to crime; from punishment here to that in the life to come, and our Prophet (S) has enjoined on us that every Muslim should possess a copy of the Holy Quran and be his own priest. Therefore, Islam is not confined to the spiritual tenets and doctrines and rituals and ceremonies. It is a complete code regulating the whole Muslim society in every department of life, collectively and individually.”

QUESTION ANSWER SESSION WITH MUSLIM STUDENTS FEDRATION
Q: What are the essential features of religion and a religious state?
A. When I hear the word “religion,” my mind thinks at once, according to the English language and British usage, of private relations between man and God. But I know full well that according to Islam, the word is not restricted to the English connotation. I am neither a Maulwi nor a Mullah, nor do I claim knowledge of theology. But I have studied in my own way the Holy Quran and Islamic tenets. This magnificent book is full of guidance respecting all human life, whether spiritual, or economic, political or social, leaving no aspect untouched.
Q. What is the distinctive feature of the Islamic state?
A. There is a special feature of the Islamic state which must not be overlooked. There, obedience is due to God and God alone, which takes practical shape in the observance of the Quranic principles and commands. In Islam, obedience is due neither to a king, nor to a parliament, nor to any other organization. It is the Quranic provisions which determine the limits of our freedom and restrictions in political and social spheres. In other words, the Islamic state is an agency for enforcement of the Quranic principles and injunctions.
There will be no economic exploitation by the capitalists in an Islamic state. In his presidential address delivered to the annual session of the All India Muslim League,

in Delhi on April 24, 1943, he said:
“Here I should like to give a warning to the landlords and capitalists who have flourished at our expense by a system which is so vicious, which is so wicked and which makes them so selfish that it is difficult to reason with them. The exploitation of the masses has gone into their blood. They have forgotten the lessons of Islam. Greed and selfishness have made these people subordinate to the interests of others in order to fatten themselves. It is true we are not in power today. You go anywhere to the countryside. I have visited villages. There are millions and millions of our people who hardly get one meal a day. Is this civilization? Is this the aim of Pakistan? Do you visualize that millions have been exploited and cannot get one meal a day? If this is the idea of Pakistan, I would not have it. If they are wise, they will have to adjust themselves to the new modern conditions of life. If they don’t, God help them, we shall not help them.”

Speech at a Mammoth Rally at the University Stadium, Lahore on 30th October, 1947:

"We thank Providence for giving us courage and faith to fight the forces of evil. If we take our inspiration and guidance from the Holy Qura’n, the final victory, I once again say, will be ours..."

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these are just few refrences from his speeches i can produce more if you like. NOW....
the Question should be asked whether the Quiad e azam was an opprtunist hypocrite politician like asif zardari???
i think you should answer the question.

what i said was specifically in the context of a dead person?...the question was raised by you whether he was a shia or not...my question is simply that how would you form an opinuion about any person?
through his action, his words and his struggle or by the some sensational revelations by his relatives on the issue of his property during court proceedings???
ofcourse other's religion is not my business....does islam asks to convert non muslim forcibly?
Islam wants rule of shariyah thats all....
i have no problem if christian wants to remain christian and practice christianity or hindu or sikh wants to do the same.

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"Go and check the Sindh High Court Record and if you can access then also check Bombay High Cort Record"

no sir!!! i don't need to check the record of court proceeding while recorded history is there...millions of people lost their lives, millions of people left their homes land for the sacred land .....the constitution of pakistan given by your beloved zulifiqar ali bhutto and earlier "Qarardad e Maqasid" is the biggest proof that despite of all kinds deviation,islam will played and will play a major role in the future revolution..inshAllah

Mugahl
You again contributed a master piece of exposure about our legendary characters.
I think Jinnah had mostly female heirs and for this purpose he took the oath of shia fo securing his property to his female descendants.
This trend is very common in Pakistan and wealthy people who have only female heirs take this option through courts without any hesitation.
As other sects are very harsh with female kins in which property and money are distributed to all nearest male family members.so all knows well that quaid through his life had no religious inclination in his routine life .
But young and depressing death of dejected Young wife and taking over of her only daughter to typical non Muslim family might disturbed his typical secular thoughts and he was forced by his friends to adopt shia practice.

dr jawwad khan says: January 31, 2010 at 10:05 pm Bottom line “Every thing is fair in love and war and do takiyan di nokri”
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Dear Jawwad Sahab,

If you are talking of Islam then above is not allowed.

I think he was out of TV for quite a time...why nobody else took his place?
No one is ready to put himself into this controversy maybe.
Islam is the hardest to take side of and it is the Muslims who carry stones in their hands.
Jannat milae gi ya jahanum this will be decided afterwards but
we are KAfirs (following liberalism or Taliban extremists is decided in this world by the fellow muslims.

dr jawwad khan says: January 31, 2010 at 10:05 pm - Excuse me!!! One was Quiad e azam the other was agha khan the third and ….who else? Hence it proves that :

On serious note: Quiad e azam never participated in any shia religious gathering ,procession or majlis…he never expressed any thing which indicates his religious(shia) tendencies. He was known and recognized as a muslim nationalist leader.
in last days of his life he was seen offering prayers and reading Quran (Arabic text with roman Arabic). The undeniable fact that his funeral prayers was offered by a well known and respected sunni scholar. He was buried in a sunni way. While on the other hand poor assassinated “peeplaee” leadership had to suffered by the “GAZ” even after their deaths.
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Dear Jawwad Sahab,

Others were Mirza Abul Hasan Isphahani, Raja Sahab Mehmoodabad and by the way Aga Khan was Ismaili.

You are partially wrong about Jinnah Funeral Prayers. Go and check the Sindh High Court Record and if you can access then also check Bombay High Cort Record. Reality is as under:

On 24 September 1948, after the demise of Muhammad Ali Jinnah, his sister Fatimah Jinnah and the then Prime Minister of Pakistan, Liaquat Ali Khan, submitted a jointly signed petition at the Karachi High Court, describing Jinnah as ‘Shia Khoja Mohamedan’ and praying that his will may be disposed of under Shia inheritance law. On 6 February, 1968 after Mohtarma Fatima Jinnah'’ demise the previous year, her sister Shirin Bai, moved an application at the High Court claiming Fatimah Jinnah’s property under the Shia inheritance law on grounds that the deceased was a Shia. As per Mr. I. H. Ispahani who was a family friend of Jinnah, revealed that Jinnah had himself told him in 1936 that he and his family had converted to Shiism after his return from England in 1894. He said that Jinnah had married Ruttie Bai according to the Shia ritual during which she was represented by a Shia scholar of Bombay, and Jinnah was represented by his Shia friend, Raja Sahib of Mehmoodabad. He however conceded that Jinnah was opposed in Bombay elections by a Shia Conference canditate. Ispahani was present when Miss Fatima Jinnah died in 1967. He himself arranged the Ghusl and Janaza {Funeral Bath and Funeral} for her at Mohatta Palace according to the Shia Ritual before handing over the body to the state. Her Sunni Namaz-e-Janaza was held later at Polo Ground, Karachi after which she was buried next to her brother at a spot chosen by Ispahani inside the mausoleum. Ritualistic Shia talqin (last advice to the deceased) was done after her dead body was lowered into the grave. (Jinnah had arranged for talqin for Ruttie Bai too when she died in 1929). Allama Syed Anisul Husnain, a Shia scholar, deposed that he had arranged the gusl of the Quaid on the instructions of Miss Fatimah Jinah. He led his Namaz-e-Janaza in a room of the Governor General’s House at which such luminaries as Yousuf Haroon, Hashim Raza, and Aftab Hatim Alvi were present, while Liaquat Ali Khan waited outside the room. After the Shia ritual, the body was handed over to the state and Maulana Shabbir Ahmed Usmani, an alim belonging to Deoband school of thought known for its anti-Shia belief, read his Janaza according the Sunni ritual at the ground where the mausoleum was later constructed. Other witnesses confirmed that after the demise of Miss Fatimah Jinnah, alam and panja (two Shia symbols) were discovered from her residence, Mohatta Palace. Despite all this Jinnah kept himself away from Shia politics. He was not a Shia; he was also not a Sunni; he was simply a Muslim.

[PAKISTAN: Behind the Ideological Mask (Facts About Great Men We Don’t Want to Know) by Khaled Ahmed, published by VANGUARD Lahore, Karachi and Islamabad. The Murder of History: A critique of history textbooks used in Pakistan by K.K. Aziz, published by VANGUARD Lahore, Karachi and Islamabad].

"Jinnah and many Founders of Pakistan were also Shias"
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Excuse me!!! One was Quiad e azam the other was agha khan the third and ….who else?
Hence it proves that :
-* Asif zardari is equivalent of Quaid e Azam….right?
-* saying bad thing against shia beliefs and following shia leaders are two different thing…right? The shariya says nothing against following a shia leader….proof? there is no single ayat and hadith prohibits following a shia leader…isn’t that great?

On serious note: Quiad e azam never participated in any shia religious gathering ,procession or majlis…he never expressed any thing which indicates his religious(shia) tendencies. He was known and recognized as a muslim nationalist leader.
in last days of his life he was seen offering prayers and reading Quran (Arabic text with roman Arabic). The undeniable fact that his funeral prayers was offered by a well known and respected sunni scholar.He was buried in a sunni way. While on the other hand poor assassinated “peeplaee” leadership had to suffered by the “GAZ” even after their deaths.

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“dr jawwad khan says: September 30, 2009 at 1:00 am @Amir mughal…..”
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People may think that Amir Mughal revealed some thing important…hahahhahaah lolzz
What I said that initial shian e Ali was quite different people from current days “athna ashrees”….people do have different opinion on this subject but having opposite point of view doesn’t make you a shia sympathizer.

Bottom line “Every thing is fair in love and war and do takiyan di nokri”

Oh I thought there might be permission in interior Sindh that men can also listen and enjoy the company of these high profile lady scholars.

Mughal
By the way how would you get entry in ladies Dars?
As it is restricted only to specific group where even their maids or lower class ladies are not allowed to hear their precious knowledge so how you breached this security barrier .
Any how you quoted a funny argument of AL regarding honey and honey bee performance and it is same level of Extracting and fabricating events which I had seen in our educated class of ladies too.
I still dont know that why such hypothetical or hyper logical events are created to justify true power of Islam while living in Islamic culture?
I think such illogical scenes are found or prerequisite of all religions to drive the less capable and low IQ (holding majority among logical class)toward particular religion. This might shows trends of our weak beliefs due to less knowledge of Islam in economically stable class.
Hypocrisy in religious set up is being found in all sects and classes developing around us.
When ever the personal interests of human comes relating to money, property and woman ,people of all sects show same sinful and criminal attitude so we cant blame any particular group for aggravating the whole situation.
You see in typical shia and Sunni groups it is so overhanging projections of events that sometime logical Muslim feel lot of embarrassment in multiracial gatherings.
Again I firmly stand on my point that AL is no way a jahil but he and his imagination can incite many jahils on line for adding more fuel of religious conflicts in burning Pakistan.

Nazia says: - January 30, 2010 at 10:09 pm After reading all this I am still unable to judge who is top most “Jahil online”. AL is not a jahil he is an educated shrewd opportunists who wants to cash power politics through his God gifted skills and available opportunities in surrounding.
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Dear Ms. Nazia,

In one of the earliest show of "Alim On Line" Mr Aamir Liaquat Hussain while narrating a Fairy Tale [without any reference] had said,

"QUOTE"

Prophet Mohammad [PBUH] asked honeybees as to how they [honeybees] sweeten the honey, the honeybees replied to the Prophet Mohammad [PBUH] that "we recite Darood Sharif [Salam and Salutation] to sweeten the honey.

"UNQUOTE"

Honey existed before the birth of Prophet Mohammad [PBUH]. Question is in the light of above narration by Aamir Liaquat as to how the honeybees sweetened the honey then????

@Amir Mughal!!!
the zulifiqar ali bhutto,benazir bhutto, asif ali zardari and overwhelming majority of PPP belongs to shia sect.....would it be enough for you to reconsider your affiliation or support for PPP?

Teeth Maestro, your blogs posts are always an interesting read... The comments posted later are... well... get a room people, thrash it out and come back when you can stay on track of the discussion. You owe it to the person who has posted this blog.

Is walking on grass haraam?

the simple meaning of Haram is "forbidden" therefore if you throwup on grass or pee then it's "haram" to go that place. *grin*

AMir mughal: AL is not a sunni. don't hide yourself behind a thin layer. I disagree wth Barelvis but I did not find any barelvi either to curse Shabis. these are only shia lunatics who does such thing.

Amir Liaqat brother is Qadiyani. They call Hazrat Ali(AS) Allah, They are not sacred and Kafir. They involved themselves with Shia but they r not shia. Imran Liaqat is fake Ayatolla of U.S to create differences in between Shia community...

@Observer!
i partially agree with you when you say that:
“AL is not a jahil he is an educated shrewd opportunists who wants to cash power politics through his God gifted skills and available opportunities in surrounding.”

he is basically an anchor person of a tv show and honestly the most power religious tv show.He gethered so many viewers because of his talking power,his selection of the words,his commond, his gestures,his delivery is really very good.he is one of the most successful tv anchor person.one should not forget that he is basically a tv show host and he adopts every possible strategy to increase his viewership.
i believe the criticism is just to sharp....isn't we all doing the same ...bolstring the religion for our own wrong doings.
but there is a good aspects of his life which came in recent years.
despite of party sympathies and care for Qadiyanis, he took a stand against qadiyanis he was expelled from the party and resigned from his ministry because of it.Going against the party line,he took anti american stance in his tv shows and columns.Which most of our "mohideen" are unable to do so.i think the credit should be given to him.
Atleast he tried to prove his "Ishq e Rasool(saw)" He is not hypocrite like many of our "mohideen" who on the one hand talk to much against "Tabbara" and on the other hand they feel no hasitation in offering their support and services to the shia,qadiyani,liberal athiests and all kinds of perverts.

Observer
as per our history these people are trained and protected by specific groups for driving masses in our society.
So he first raised from a typical political group where he couldnt get satisfied projection as Altaf bhai never allowed any body to speak more than him in this game of politics.So in speech therapy process of Karachi people AL took another forum on the basis of religion different than altaf hussain.

Mughal
As I told earlier that he has full control on his words and subjects.Our weak people are always in need of religious shelter to prove their sanctity and religious awareness in this way.
I many times attended the daras lectures of ladies calling them latest Muslim scholars of state or city.
They gathered low caliber,less knowledgeable and sometimes extremely corrupt group around themselves and try to impress them through theoretical knowledge of religion which they gained by reading few books but what I observed common in most of them is lack of practicality in their words and acts in normal life.
As like in ladies circle these women got infuriated when I asked them that being a Muslim devotee woman would she allowed her husband to marry to a widow or needy lady of our society.
Or sometime they got annoyed when I asked them that if their husband or son bring an illegitimate child to home , how they treated this child which belong to them.(Actually it was happened real and I had come to know that they had killed this child by throwing in garbage).
In short now no one is interested in inviting me in such daras like latest parties where even getup of servants of house is telling us double and triple standard of such religious associats.
I hope you know Gen shoib amjad an ex MI chief very well.
Whole city knows about his corruption details.
Here her wife is very popular for setting such religious gatherings.Sh might be doing in her guilt or for covering up her husband big criminal records in her active social circle.
So through my little examples, you can judge why we people need thick cover of religious guilt around us.

Talkhaba says: January 30, 2010 at 1:46 pm @Adnan! We have nothing else than just sympathy for this rejected and frustrated person. I don’t know about his performance as notorious agency officer; however the way he was kicked out of Express speaks volume of his retarded state of mind.
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Dear Sir,

Wrong Again,

I was not kicked out but I resigned.

Hiring Firing sacking and kicking out, Background is as under: Unethical Behavior of Express News TV Pakistan.
http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2009/09/unethical...

@Nazia

"AL is not a jahil he is an educated shrewd opportunists who wants to cash power politics through his God gifted skills and available opportunities in surrounding."

He can be a jahil in spite of having all the skills you have referred to. Being a jahil is not the same as being illiterate.

After reading all this I am still unable to judge who is top most "Jahil online".

AL is not a jahil he is an educated shrewd opportunists who wants to cash power politics through his God gifted skills and available opportunities in surrounding.
he is again proving that Pakistan as per history is usually damaged by her educated and privileged class.
here jahil class has no capacity to interfere in state matters and all time vulnerable to ill will planning of literates of Pakistan.

Amir Mughal is another Amir Liquat.

Both have L-U-C-E-E as last name and Amir as first name.

Both are big mouths with empty upper-chamber.

They bhashan big things but do not reflect on the same.

Let's ask Allah(swt) for guaidance and forgiveness.

dr jawwad khan says: January 30, 2010 at 5:20 pm Action speaks louder than words…. you take the words from Quran and Hadith and use for your face saving…. what is the problem in becoming a straight forward secular? many people do not believe in Islam but they do not use Quran and Ahadith for deception.
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Dear Jawwad Sahab,

Let Allah be the judge on somebody's faith.

dr jawwad khan says: January 30, 2010 at 5:12 pm Do you really believe that islam is a divine guidance from Almighty Allah(swt)? if you do belive then why there is pick and choose? why not accepting the islam as a complete code of life?
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Dear Jawwad Sahab,

I don't have to prove my Islam to anyone. What I believe is clearly written above in my every comment.

dr jawwad khan says: January 30, 2010 at 5:12 pm its really amazing for me to see the level of religious knowledge and faith on secular ideology at the same time. its just amazing and honestly disoppointing. Because of some disputed issues you want a ban on all religious programmes?
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Dear Jawwad Sahab,

These "some disputed issues" caused havoc amongst Mulsims [life loss - life of Muslim is sacred then Kabaa]

لهدم الكعبة حجراً حجراً أهون من قتل المسلم‏

"Demolishing the Kaaba completely is much more preferred to Allah Almighty than shedding the blood of a Believing Muslim." [Tirmidhi and others]

Reference:

وعن عبد الله بن عمر رضي الله عنه قال رأيت رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم يطوف بالكعبة ويقول: (ما أطيبك وأطيب ريحك ما أعظمك وأعظم حرمتك والذي نفس محمد بيده لحرمة المؤمن أعظم عند الله حرمة منك ماله ودمه وأن نظن به إلا خيراً) رواه ابن ماجة وصححه العلامة الألباني في صحيح الترغيب 2/630.
ونظر ابن عمر رضي الله عنه يوماً إلى البيت أو إلى الكعبة فقال ما أعظمك وأعظم حرمتك والمؤمن أعظم حرمة عند الله منك) رواه الترمذي.

وأما الحديث الذي أشار إليه السائل وهو (لهدم الكعبة حجراً حجراً أهون من قتل المسلم‏)‏.
فقد ذكره الشيخ العجلوني في كشف الخفاء وقال [قال في المقاصد – أي السخاوي - لم أقف عليه بهذا اللفظ، ولكن معناه عند الطبراني في الصغير عن أنس رفعه (من آذى مسلماً بغير حق فكأنما هدم بيت الله)ونحوه عن غير واحد من الصحابة أنه صلى الله عليه وسلم نظر إلى الكعبة فقال لقد شرفك الله وكرمك وعظمك والمؤمن أعظم حرمة منك ] كشف الخفاء ومزيل الإلباس حديث رقم 2086.

Religion is a private and personal matter and should not be preached through TV Channels like Evangelists particularly in Sectarian Charged Society like Pakistan.
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its really amazing for me to see the level of religious knowledge and faith on secular ideology at the same time.its just amazing and honestly disoppointing.
why religion is a private and personal matter.
Human is created by Allah(swt).
He gave him the choice,free will and independent mind.
He sent prophet after prophet to show the guidance.
1 lack and 24 thousand prophets for what?
He created human being and for human being He created so many things...for what?
heaven and hell for what?
to make His divine rules as a personal matter!!!
No dear He(swt) wants complete submission,Unconditional obedience at all level.
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Because of some disputed issues you want a ban on all religious programmes?
Do you really believe that islam is a divine guidance from Almighty Allah(swt)? if you do belive then why there is pick and choose? why not accepting the islam as a complete code of life?

Talkhaba says:January 30, 2010 at 1:46 pm @Adnan! We have nothing else than just sympathy for this rejected and frustrated person. let these criminal and Anti Islam person like Amir Mughal spend their time on misguiding masses of Pakistan, I assure these Beeman and so-called Muslim will not succeed.
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Dear Talkhaba,

If the above statement of yours is a "Fatwa" of apostasy {Takfeer} against a Kalima Reciting Muslim, then for your kind perusal,

Whoever offers prayers as we do and turns his face to our Qiblah and eats the animal slaughtered by us, he is a Muslim for whom is the covenant of Allah and the covenant of the Messenger of Allah; so do not violate Allah's covenant." [Sahih Bukhari]

``Ibn Umar related that the Holy Prophet said: If a Muslim calls another kafir, then if he is a kafir let it be so; otherwise, he [the caller] is himself a kafir.''(Sunnan Abu Dawood)

``Abu Zarr reported that the Holy Prophet said: No man accuses another man of being a sinner, or of being a kafir, but it reflects back on him if the other is not as he called him.''(Bukhari)

``Withhold [your tongues] from those who say `There is no god but Allah' --- do not call them kafir. Whoever calls a reciter of `There is no god but Allah' as a kafir, is nearer to being a kafir himself.'' (Tabarani, reported from Abdullah Ibn Omar)

If the above Hadiths do not satisfy then read this!

Usaamah bin Zaid reported,

“Allaah’s Messenger sent us towards Al-Huruqa, and in the morning we attacked them and defeated them. I and an Ansari man followed a man from among them and when we overwhelmed him, he said, “La ilaha illal-Lah.” On hearing that, the Ansari man stopped, but I killed him by stabbing him with my spear. When we returned, the Prophet (sal-Allaahu `alayhe wa sallam) came to know about that and he said:

"O Usaamah! Did you kill him after he had said “La ilaha ilal-Lah?” I said, “But he said so only to save himself.” He kept on repeating that so often that I wished I had not embraced Islaam before that day. [Agreed upon, and this is the wording of Bukhari]

and in another version in Sahih Muslim about the same incident:

``Did you tear open his heart to see what was in it?'' [Muslim]

isn’t that strange that on one hand you quote frequently from Quran e Kareem and Ahadith e Mubarika and on the other hand insist on the secular ideology?…”let the people do whatever please them” [dr jawwad khan says: January 30, 2010 at 1:51 pm]
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Dear Jawwad Sahab,

Deobandis and Ahle-Hadith don't celebrate Eid Milad like Barelvi [Sunnis] and Deobandis and Ahle-Hadith don't observe Muharram like Shias. Mind you one more thing overwhelming majority of Pakistanis regularly celebrate Urs of Saints scattered all around Pakistan and Deobandis and Ahle-Hadith don't do that either. Deobandis and Ahle-Hadith also write books against each other [Read Irshadul Haq Asari, Mawlana Zahid Kausrai and Mawlana Safdar Sarfaraz Aukarwi against each other]. In this situation when these Mullahs have no consensus people better should consider religious belief a private matter.

isn’t that strange that on one hand you quote frequently from Quran e Kareem and Ahadith e Mubarika and on the other hand insist on the secular ideology?…”let the people do whatever please them” [dr jawwad khan says: January 30, 2010 at 1:51 pm]
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Dear Jawwad Sahab,

My plea was this:

Aamir Mughal says: January 30, 2010 at 11:34 am Pakistani Society Consist upon a patchwork of different Muslim Sects therefore any kind of Religious Program from any TV Channel should be stopped because most of the time people [from different Sects] raise hue and cry whenever their point of view is not relayed. Aamir Liaquat’s program added more problems in Society instead of solving. Religion is a private and personal matter and should not be preached through TV Channels like Evangelists particularly in Sectarian Charged Society like Pakistan.

thanks for correcting my mistake....it was a hadith...
and please tell us the laws of of witness in islam and its application on qadianis..

The Aaya Mubarika you quoted is not applicable here becuase it decides the judicial principal in case of problem between two individuals of muslims society… [jawwad khan says: January 30, 2010 at 1:51 pm]
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Dear Jawwad Sahab,

I haven't quoted the Quranic Verse but Hadith of Tirmidhi. Please go and read the Law of Witness in Islam.

Is walking on grass haraam?

He is playing his role in Pakistan 's religious politics.
It is not matter what he is assuming about defeat of cricket team other than their performance as I had seen many superstitious acts even in educated and groomed class but biggest tragedy is that huge masses have become traumatized by his fake rhetoric styles and glamorous get up(for some one).
Conceptually shaky people always look shelter under such personalities.
So as he is going further in religious fanaticism, knowledge of religion is separating from his words and enticing attiude is becoming more dominant in his speeches.