American forces Harass a Pakistani Citizen in Karachi
Mubashir Lucman in his show Point Blank on Express News which was aired yesterday on the evening of 29th December presents some sweeping evidences of the role of American forces in harassing Pakistani citizens, specifically intimidation and interrogation of Dr Mehvish Baig in Karachi – a naturalized Pakistani American who has been trying to give up her US citizenship.
Dr. Mehvish Baig shares her experience as a number of American forces enter into her house and harass her and her kids with dire circumstances. She resides in Naval Complex Karachi and her brother is a serving Naval officer. The first 12 minutes are relevant with the interview of Dr. Mehvish.
A quick investigation reveals that she is on Interpol’s list of wanted suspects, facing kidnapping charges allegedly to have skipped out of the US with her two kids. In a statement to the Lahore High Court where she moved the local Pakistani courts to stop this harassment, Dr Mehwish stated that she had gone to the United States in 1998 after getting married to Dr Faheem Nusrat and had both obtained US nationality. She returned to Pakistan this year with her daughters Ayasha Faheem, 9, and Fatima Faheem, 5, after her husband divorced her over domestic issues. She claimed in her statement to Lahore High Court that before returning to Pakistan, she obtained legal custody of the girls through a court after getting permission from their father.
It seems to be at best a domestic issue, with international police involved BUT that should not allow the FBI or any other international agency to waltz into her house and threaten her, if she has allegedly kidnapped (?) her kids, Interpol and the FBI must approach the local police to arrest her as I am sure International agreements with Pakistan must be very understanding to any/all arrest warrants issued by Interpol, once arrested then they must subsequently approach the local court system to extradite her to the US.
Until proper procedures are not followed I must vehemently object to the sweeping powers that have been given to American agencies to go about their business in Pakistan without accountability We simply cannot have another Aafia Siddiqui again, where my position is exactly the same, if she was guilty of terrorism she should have been arrested here in Pakistan and tried locally, not handed over without trail to the American agencies
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‘MI handed Dr Aafia over to US’ By Faraz Khan Friday, August 08, 2008 http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2008...
KARACHI: The Sindh Home Department has alleged Military Intelligence (MI) detained Dr Aafia Siddiqui in 2003 and then handed her over to United States-based agencies, Daily Times learnt on Thursday. Dr Siddiqui is under trial in New York, accused of Al Qaeda involvement and attempting to kill FBI agents while detained in Afghanistan.
Sources close to the matter claimed the Interior Ministry asked the provincial home departments for detailed reports on missing persons a couple of weeks ago, and that the list prepared by the Sindh Home Department included Dr Siddiqui and her three children, Maryam, Ahmed and Suleman. The report confirmed MI detained Dr Siddiqui and her three children in Gulshan-e-Iqbal on March 30, 2003, later handing her over to the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI).
The FBI declared the arrests of Siddiqui and her teenage son Muhammad Ahmed, while her other two children, Maryam and Suleman, remain missing. Dr Fauzia, Siddiqui’s younger sister, declined to comment when asked about the missing children. Dr Siddiqui’s mother, Ismat, told Daily Times that she did not know who detained her daughter but said she was told an officer from the law enforcement or intelligence agency admitted he arrested Dr Siddiqui. After Dr Siddiqui’s arrest, FBI officials apologised and promised to release her, but this promise has yet to be honoured. “If Aafia was genuinely a criminal, our lawyer would not have taken the case as he did a thorough investigation into our family and found no evidence of any wrongdoing,” she said. When contacted for comment, no senior official in the Sindh Home Department was available.
pakistan's first 5 kalima are America
pahla kalma America ney dil turaa
dusraa kalma America ney saath chorha
tesraa kalma America ney ghum diya
chuhta kalma America ney .......
panchwan kalma America ney.....
people get a life... and get some self confidence
pakistan and pakistanis have stoop so low in their self confidence not only as a muslim but as a human also
even our slaves, "Indians" are threatening us every day...
now thats i call pitty....
stop praying to America
Remember Allah is greatest of All.....
@Ayesha_fatima
I do not deny of your information. What I am saying is that NO foreigners should be allowed to operate inside Pakistan. This is the job of Pakistan authorities.
Yes, no foreigners shall be allowed to operate in a country where there is a law. But no offence, Pakistan is a law less country with history of 60 years of corruption and favourism, then what you expect. If there was a law ansd accountability, Mehvish Baig would not have gone there. She knows that she can bribe the media, police, lawyers, judges and even Mr president who became 100% after being a 10% for long time.
Sorry to tell you guys truth, but I am one of Pakistani fed up from this corruption.
Tell Amna Masood Janua that her Husband Masood Janjua is no more alive - Hamid Mir - Daily Jang Dated 7 Jan 2010.
Thursday, January 07, 2010, Muharram 20, 1431 A.H
http://www.jang.com.pk/jang/jan2010-daily/07-01-20...
Monday, December 28, 2009, Muharram 10, 1431 A.H
http://www.jang.com.pk/jang/dec2009-daily/28-12-20...
World is a Global Village :
Embassy's do great work as well.Last year a Bangladeshi young Doctor was called to Bangladesh by her parents from Britain and was forced to marry an illiterate when she refused she was drugged and put into mental hospital from where she managed to text her friends in Britain and she was saved through courts and Embassy.
However more and more people when get to foreign countries they get radicalized and they come back to Pakistan or other countries....we have to be very careful who we are advocating and why?
Pakistan Government must make crystal clear laws regarding the way embassies operate in Pakistan.
Every case is different and varies from person to person.
We must watch and monitor all these cases closely.
Thank you Ayesha
For taking time out to write on the issue and shedding some light on it.
I am sorry to know that it is a case of divorce and as I understood she took the children out of country against the court order.
Divorce is a difficult and emotional thing
it often blinds people to override sanity.
I hope Dr.Mehwish would try to sort out things amicably which will suit to the needs of her children, their father herself and will respect the court order or would write to them to re-negotiate her children custody.
Best Regards
Taking the liberty of copying the email I sent to Dr. Faheem after he emailed me earlier today
Dr. Faheem / Ayesha_Fatima_Abduction
I must firstly thank you for contacting me directly - The issue under question is highly sensitive and naturally very emotional for you yourself and my deep rooted sympathies for the emotional trauma you may be facing being so far away from your two lovely children.
Firstly let me clarify my own position in this issue, I have no inclination to embroil myself in the legitimacy of your divorce settlement with Dr. Mehvish &/or the custody issue of your two innocent children or even for the matter for me to question the legitimacy of the Interpol warrant - ALL stand as legal as expected.
I for one moment do not take Dr. Mehvish's word - as the gold standard for her expression of explicit truth and did carry a short research before I made that blog post
If you carefully read my blog post my categoric position on the issue is not supporting the legality / illegality of the problems faced by Dr. Mehvish regarding her custody of her two kids - but I am questioning the way American forces "as stated in her own words" harassed her in her home in Karachi. The harassment statement was also produced in the Lahore High Court on 23rd December which in turn questioned the federal secretaries of the Foreign Office / Ministry of Interior as to why she was harassed by a foreign diplomatic official in her home in Karachi.
My position is that I vehemently object to the sweeping powers that have been given to American agencies in Pakistan to go about their business without even so much as our local police / or court system be aware of their movements
You may notice that my blog posts is not to question her abduction of her children (thats a separate issue entirely) but is geared up towards questioning the way American Agencies are roaming around in our country as with sweeping powers to do as they please
I do remain open to any clarifications that you would like to share in this regard
Dr Mehvish Baig followed all the court orders while in USA when she filed for divorce to splitt millions of dollars. However the court also ordered to not to take the both children out of USA without writtent consent of father due to legal joint physical custody.....obviously she disregard that and became a felon (Wanted) for abduction. have respect for father's emotions towards his children. Send me your email and I will send you the chain of her lies since she filed for divorce. US embassy personnels went for a routine welfare visit to her house as per the protocol by involving local law authorities. I am a community member and key witness of this case. Being a Muslim, and impartial person, I can tell you that she is not innocent. Let's stop exploiting our crimes by blamming Americans.
@Aamir
Abbas Athar is a known lifafa journalist. His masters are the same as yours.....PPP.
For you please follow your judgment on me:
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Observer December 30, 2009 at 12:58 pm – Sorry….I just gave him the prize for winning this “contest” – – Yaah,,,yaahh I know he is modest and refuse to accept his victory http://www.funnyforumpics.com/forums/Youre-Awseome...
Observer says: December 30, 2009 at 3:09 pm Did you work for IB? If yes, then please tell me whether that job required an analytical sense? Or do you think that only you can ask the questions?
“UNQUOTE”
British citizens who were detained while 9/11 from Pak/Afghan listen to the stories of those people when freed from Guantanamo bay.
British did not want to advocate their case.It is the individual efforts of their family and private lawyers who got them freed.
The lack of irresponsibility of Government is US Embassy people went alone they had no one from Pakistan ,US ambassy must have a lawyer representing them and a Pakistani liaison officer with them when they went to see Dr.Mahwish.
US embassy is working through local authorities and went for a welfare visit once kids were located. The father has contacted her parents in Pakistan when he was trying to find the both daughters and they said that they have no idea about Mehvish as if she came to Pakistan. It was only after she try to denounce her citizenship and US embassy found her address and went for welfare visit of the children. She knows that she can not drop her citizenship and is listed on the interpol as wanted (first ever interpol arrest warrants for children abduction). This is because Georgia Court passed an order that she can't take the children out of USA without fathers's written consent and she obviously disregard that. She however followed all the court orders to splitt millions of dollars of her ex husbands income but when it came to share the children visit for father, she ran away to torture him and exploit him.
Follow the link.
http://www.interpol.int/public/data/wanted/notices...
Send me your email and I can share the court orders long before she kidnapped the kids.
@Aamir
It's not a surprise that you can make an opinion on low life ML since he is from a camp, who has started a full fledged media war against Zardari/PPP. Do you also have the guts to say that PPP is corrupt, without any if's and but's?
Please don't paste an irrelveant link to make an evasive manoevre.
I was replying to Mr MB!
For you please follow your judgment on me:
"QUOTE"
Observer December 30, 2009 at 12:58 pm – Sorry….I just gave him the prize for winning this “contest” – – Yaah,,,yaahh I know he is modest and refuse to accept his victory http://www.funnyforumpics.com/forums/Youre-Awseome...
Observer says: December 30, 2009 at 3:09 pm Did you work for IB? If yes, then please tell me whether that job required an analytical sense? Or do you think that only you can ask the questions?
"UNQUOTE"
First Program of ML on ExpressNews after he quit NEWSONE and do feel the difference between a Cordial Interview and Grilling and Sermons of present day ML
Gen Pervaiz musharraf interview -point black mubashir lucman Part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJmSxET-CA4&fea...
Gen Pervaiz musharraf interview -point black mubashir lucman Part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FdIipvcP2U&fea...
Gen Pervaiz musharraf interview -point black mubashir lucman Part 3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8aOtnpvpgo&fea...
Gen Pervaiz musharraf interview -point black mubashir lucman Part 4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xto5I-WWO-U&fea...
Musharraf's Policies were "Good" for Pakistan???
Mubashir Lucman speaks the truth about Pervez Musharraf
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPl__6cXHCs
First Program of ML on ExpressNews after he quit NEWSONE and do feel the difference between a Cordial Interview and Grilling and Sermons of present day ML
Gen Pervaiz musharraf interview -point black mubashir lucman Part 1
How come Mr Mubashir Lucman succeeded in getting the Video of Killing Through Drone?
@Amir@Awab@Observer@everyone
Kindly enlighten me but ML didnt ask the MOST IMPORTANT question from the lady i.e WHAT THE FBI people actually were asking her about? What they wanted from her? What questions they asked?
You never know, PAK nation has a habit of acting "innocent" always. ML has given only one side of story. Asking questions like DID YOU DO anything wrong is quite silly as obviously she will deny any wrong doing on a LIVE tv.
She never told what they wanted from her.
@MB
I do not deny that there might be something fishy about Dr. Mehwish. I simply don't know, BUT that does NOT allow FBI to act like law enforcement authorities in Pakistan. It is the job of Pakistani authorities to investigate the matter on Pakistani soil and subsequently handle the case under PAK law!!!
Mubashar Lucman is a low class former military henchman, but remember he was NOT the only (also MQM and PML-Q did it) one who collaborated with the army. We need to have the same yardstick for all!
Dear MB,
This is real Mubashir Lucman: Mubashir Lucman abusing Ch Iftikhar and Lawyers on 12 May Incident http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlzJgXxVMko&fea...
If I am not wrong [and no pun and disrespect intended towards to genuine concern of the family]
Wanted
BAIG, Mehvish Salim
http://www.interpol.int/public/data/wanted/notices...
Sorry for the duplication, pardon for the repetition.
She is naturalised in USA.Who is her husband?
Where is he?
Is it a case of a divorce and child custody?
Are the children US citizen?
Is their father US citizen?
It seems embassy personal escorted her to her brother's house and were not stopped at check post because they were accompanied by her.
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Not that I trust USA or I deny existance of Blackwater .
Also I do support her even if it is child custody case but to be honest could not get the real issue or why she is being harrased?
I am sure though USA does not need to chase people in this manner for that they have Pakistan Police first they arrest them and than export them like in the case of missiing people.
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Unfortunately parents however nasty and twisted they are children have the right to know them.
this could also be the possibility....thanks for sharing your perspective....
You have raised valid points, but the fact of the matter is that NO foreigner should be allowed to operate on PAK soil!
If they have an issue with the doctor, then they should handle it through the local authorities!
that is right...there should be no compromise on sovereignty and national interests. the fact is our submission and loyality for americans is touching new skies.
we set so many "enlightened" examples of submissions and loyality,that even extremely poor contry of africa can't
think of it.
the fact is that this issue is the serious one and no one can ignore any news of presence of americans but what distrubs me most is watching the guys like mubashir lucman on television screen....i strongly believe that the right place of mubashir lucman is some cheap red light area not the television screen...do not mind if i say that he is literaly a son of bitch.
Here is a reminder of what happens, when security matters are taken "care" of by foreigners. Blackwater has murdered people and still they "escape" from US "justice".
""Inquiries carried out by the Iraqi government clearly confirm that the Blackwater guards committed a crime and used weapons when there was no threat necessitating the use of force," he said. "
How can we expect protection frpom the Pakistani leadership, when the leadership is busy elsewhere:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPia1oZqCfU
And, yes....Lucman himself is a crook too!
read my comic piece :(of course I am going crazy)
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Act I
So Mr.Teeth gets a story ,he publishes it ,so the public will read and comment .......and reach to a conclusion or form a reaction.
Act II
Man A comes and likes it
Man B comes and dislikes it
than X,Y,Z come and they want to write too but they cannot
Act III
Man B always raises his foot sometimes right sometimes left
and man A keeps falling
Act IIII
When Mr.XYZ ask Mr.B why you do not let Mr.A write and finish so that we can continue
Mr.B says I do not want anyone to write and think after I have written or thought something.
-------All Rights reserved ,it is all fictious and if it seems even remotely linked to you in anyway kindly think it was written for you .....if you read it only once you are saved
.....if you have read it twice you will have five years of bad luck
.....if you read it thrice than you are blessed and if you read it yet again
you must agree I am foolish.
@Aamir
"Judge Not Lest Ye Be Judged! and Let He Who is Without Sin Cast the First Stone"
Is that a license to "lagey raho loot maar meiN". Nobody is perfect and nobody should ask questions. Is that what you stand for.
Nobody will catch you - at least not now.
Your writing is far from revolutionary...rather status quo-like :-)
Publishing Juicy Corruption Cases Details in Newspapers and showing it on TV Shows is one thing and proving is quite another and those Journalists [Read Sehbai, Kamran, and others ] who are itching for Trial have themselves condemned the Process of Accountability 10 Years ago [that's why Dear Mr Observer I am saying you to read the same journalists and their 10 year old stories]. It was you who was talking about Revolution not me.
@Aamir
"It was you who was talking about Revolution not me."
That's exactly why you will get along with the current government.......lagey raho.....Sab kharab haiN. Ham bhi aur tum ham se bhi ziayda.
Jatoi accepted corruption on tv, so there is no "juicy" about it.
just because you have your true ID (Which I don’t know and don’t care about) that does not make you brave, just or truth speaker. What you stand for – both in theory and practical life – makes you brave and just. [Observer]
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Sir,
I never claimed bravery or being just. At least I can easily be traced and taken care off.
Judge Not Lest Ye Be Judged! and Let He Who is Without Sin Cast the First Stone
@Aamir & Ehsan
If she is a terrorist, then why she (Aafia) has not been convicted after so many years. What proof do you have against her?
@Ehsan
And one does not have to be a "phuphi ke beti" for us to raise our voices against unjust treatment. Insanyat bhi koi cheez hai!
Let's see the proofs.
Btw: Did Musharraf sell Pakistani citizens to the Americans and did he also sell Aafia? Anyone who knows?
You live in the West so you tell us about their Justice System. Selling Pakistanis to the USA was one of the Thread of this blog check older posts.
Dr Aafia’s children: father’s plea December 12, 2008
http://www.dawn.com/2008/12/12/letted.htm#1
Source:
’عافیہ نے جہاد کرنے پر زور ڈالا‘
احمد رضا
بی بی سی اردو ڈاٹ کام، کراچی
http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/pakistan/story/2009/02/0...
Dr Afia's ex Husband can say whatever he likes now. There is no one to correct the story, while she remains incarcerated.
Ask yourself, if they were your children would you not try to do anything to get them out; especially after he points out that the whole Siddiqui family is Jihadi mentality?
Again, Pakistani reporters (wannabe journalists), Media, Judiciary, and President are all up for sale. When you have lawyers like Khawaja Naveed, Illyas Khan who eat of the hands of the Americans and serve on the American agenda while sitting in Pakistan, & make millions off the Pakistan expatriates who come and seek their counsel and in return these vultures sell them off to the Americans or anyone willing to bid higher.
However, common man can not be taken for granted anymore; they have started to mobilize in Pakistan. A lot has been written without given a care if they are talking of a sitting president or a Minister. Hla bol
Dr afia kis ki phuppi ki beti hay ? the fact is she was a terrorist and she wasn't taken or handed from Pakistan you are all speaking like you all are from her family and jsut you and just you know all the facts while her husband and her real family are fake ?
Dr Aafia Siddiqui’s husband breaks his silence after six years - Wednesday, February 18, 2009 Claims most reports in the local media are false, suspects his two ‘missing’ children are in Karachi - By Aroosa Masroor http://www.thenews.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=...
KARACHI: After six years of silence, Dr Muhammad Amjad Khan, ex-husband of Dr Aafia Siddiqui, has finally spoken up and says that most of the press reports that relate to his former wife as well as his children are false. In an exclusive talk with The News, he said that most claims are being propagated to garner public support and sympathy for Dr Aafia but are one-sided and in most instances untrue.
@Aamir
It is the job of the government to stop corruption, and not the job of a common man. An ordinary man cannot afford to file cases against governments with all the state apparatus available. Stop this BS. Jatoi has ADMITTED on TV that it is PPP's right to do corruption. Has PPPP removed him or filed a case against him? Justice must start within first!
Apart from that the above issue is about American harassment of Dr. Mehvish. Can you ensure that PPP look into the matter and provide security for Dr. Mehvish?
Why is FBI roaming around freely in Pakistan?
Is FBI doing it with the acceptance of PPP, MQM and/or the army?
Read as to what General Mahmood has accepted after 911. By the way US Administration may change after a term into a democrat or republican but their policy is revolves around their Interests. Read the terms of US and acceptance by Pakistan:
9 -11 & Said Bahaji: Right under the Nose of Bush, Musharraf and Mahmud. http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2009/10/9-11-said...
Of course it is a government duty to nip corruption in the bud but how would you define role of the members of civil society [Dr Awab and his blog included] doing excellent job despite being common citizens by running a campaign for good governance and that too taking risk and doing it by spending their own money. So why don't you file a petition against Gross Irregularities in the International Court of Justice [since you live abroad] against the USA and Pakistani Govt. as well.
@Aamir
I praise all those who raise their voice against injustice - be it journalists, bloggers and other critics of injustice, and in whatever capacity they work. I also praise Mr. Awab for raising several important issues on his blog. Many of which goes against the ruling elite. What is also good about Mr. Awab is that he has the courage to call a spade a spade - unlike you.....you hide behind a lot of smokescreen, but it's not hard to figure out where you stand.
It is ridiculous to ask common man to file cases against the government! A common simply doesn't have the resources to go after these crooks.
unlike you…..you hide behind a lot of smokescreen, but it’s not hard to figure out where you stand. [Observer]
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Sir,
Time will tell and you are not the Judge or Criteria, I have seen mess from too closer a distance. What I have written on Bhutto, Benazir, Zia, Zardari, Musharraf, MQM .etc.etc. is usually not written [by any Typical PPP Supporter] and that too by using real name and picture and providing complete personal details [mine].
I also know Fauzia Wahab and other corrupt PPP politicians. She comes on TV and lies and twists as much as she can. I wouldn't call her brave, but rather stupid. I wouldn't call her just but rather corrupt.
In other words; just because you have your true ID (Which I don't know and don't care about) that does not make you brave, just or truth speaker. What you stand for - both in theory and practical life - makes you brave and just.
Until now he has not been able to accept that PPP is CORRUPT! [Observer]
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Judiciary is free, come to Pakistan and file a constitutional petition against them because you have been talking about Soft and even Hard Revolution in Pakistan on another forum.
@Ahmed
This is not about having a short memory. If you read my comments then you will see that I agree with Aamir that many of the journalist/experts are corrupt. Where we have a difference is when Aamir refuses to accept wrong doings of PPP. Until now he has not been able to accept that PPP is CORRUPT! The answers is always that either the other parties are corrupt or even more corrupt.
Btw: I think most other parties are corrupt too....and not to forget the army corruption.
@Aamir
I rest my case.
I'm divorced women....my nikaah was held in pak and my husband was a citizen of america....an i got citizenship due to my husband....nw he divorced me with fraud...and i want to know can he block my citizenship after divorce???
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