MQM’s 3800 Criminal Cases withdrawn under the NRO
The NRO mudslinging competition continues to go on, each party/individual boldly underplaying his/her own association with the controversial bill. What seriously amazes me, is that we still do not have access to the full and complete list of beneficiaries and are at the receiving end of confusing reports where the totals have seemingly fluctuated from a mere initial 600 to a now whopping 8000, seriously that’s one hell’uva discrepancy. While our two-timing politicians undermine their own headcount to say its between 34 to 300 victims, probably they hope to rely on the confusing mess to numb out the issue from the minds of the people of Pakistan. Such rampant corruption which as literally debilitated this nation, it is probably their right to know was eligible for this executive presidential pardon issued by Pervaiz Musharraf and its all the more important to know who cashed it in and what precisely was waived off, in the name of politically reconciliation.
The mudslinging is for now centered on some kingpins from the PPP but in the confusion it seems MQM is trying its damnedest to sneak under the media-frenzy hoping to walk away with mere statements like “National Accountability Bureau has no case against any MQM worker“. Karachi is a witness to the anarchy of the good ‘ol terror-filled days courtesy of the MQM. The time frame for pardoning of all criminal cases charged against them ironically range from 1986 and onwards.
It might serve us well to first look at the Section 2 of the NRO which centers exclusively around the criminal cases of the MQM
SECTION 2. Amendment of section 494, Act V of 1898
In the Code of Criminal Procedure, 1898 (Act V of 1898), section 494 shall be renumbered as sub-section (1) thereof and after sub-section (1) renumbered as aforesaid, the following sub-section (2) and (3) shall be added, namely:“(2) Notwithstanding anything to the contrary in sub-section(1), the federal government or a provincial government may, before the judgment is pronounced by a trial court, withdraw from the prosecution of any person including an absconding accused who is found to be falsely involved for political reasons or through political victimization in any case initiated between 1st day of January, 1986 to 12th day of October, 1999 and upon such withdrawal clause (a) and clause (b) of sub-section (1) shall apply.
(3) For the purposes of exercise of powers under sub-section (2) the federal government and the provincial government may each constitute a review board to review the entire record of the case and furnish recommendations as to their withdrawal or otherwise.
(4) The review board in case of Federal Government shall be headed by a retired judge of the Supreme Court with Attorney-General and Federal Law Secretary as its members and in case of Provincial Government it shall be headed by a retired judge of the high court with Advocate-General and/or Prosecutor-General and Provincial Law Secretary as its members.
(5) A review board undertaking review of a case may direct the public prosecutor or any other authority concerned to furnish to it the record of the case.”
This may seem to be quite a mouthful of legal jargon but PILDAT published a Legislative Review deciphering the NRO bill for the layperson and this is what they had to say trying to translate the Section 2 of the National reconciliatory Ordinance
Review of the Criminal Cases Registered because of Political Victimization:
The NRO has several beneficiaries. Section 2, apparently inserted at the instance of the MQM, amends section 494 of the Criminal Procedure Code. Prior to the amendment only the Prosecutors-General were empowered to withdraw pending criminal cases. Section 2 provides for Boards at the federal and provincial levels for review of criminal cases lodged between January 1, 1986 and October 12, 1999. In case the Review Boards find that the accused persons in these criminal cases including absconders have been falsely involved for political reasons or through political victimization the Boards can recommend withdrawal of such cases to the respective governments, and the concerned governments have been empowered to withdraw the same.
The NRO does not say that the respective governments are bound by the recommendations of the Review Boards. However, the power of the governments to withdraw pending criminal cases is subject to the approval of the concerned courts. The Federal Review Board is to be headed by a retired Judge of the Supreme Court and is to include the Attorney General and the Federal Law Secretary as its Members. The Provincial Review Boards are to be headed by retired judges of the High Courts and are to include the Advocates General and/or Prosecutors General and the Provincial Law Secretaries as its members.
It is not clear who will select and appoint the retired judges to head the Review Boards but it is a critical point for an objective review because rest of the members are government functionaries. There were similar Review Boards constituted during the tenure of the first Benazir Government for review of cases of public sector employees wrongfully terminated during the Zia ul Haq years on account of their PPP affiliations. The recommendations of these Review Boards led to re-instatements and righting of wrongs in several hundred cases. Prima facie section 2 may survive judicial challenge. There could be a finding that the dates are arbitrary. Why all cases between January 1,1986 to October 12, 1999? Why not also similar cases in earlier and later periods? There could also be an argument advanced that the law should require the Review Boards to hear the complainants before making their recommendations and that the respective governments must record reasons in case they disagree with the recommendations of the review boards. These are some of the desirable amendments which legislators should consider when debating the legislation in the Parliament.
So the beauty of this Section in the NRO, lies in the fact that “the review board” can be constituted at the free will of any individual or party and it can then selectively do away with cases at their own discretion marking them as “political victimization” and eventually freeing upto 3800 criminal. Many may counter this argument saying that these cases were heard “according to a due process” and then political victimization cases were isolated and eventually dismissed – sadly we all know that this due process was only a fabrication to bend the law and the MQM must have surely appointed willing adjudicators who simply dismissed all evidence and discarded all such cases that had MQM party workers under investigation. The NRO ordinance sponsored by Musharraf did in fact help MQM and its supporters to circumvent the law for their own advantage, hence it must be on record that jailed criminals benefited and were immediately released
Karachiites have been a witness to the rampant terrorism that had waged on our streets during the 13 year period (1986 to 1999) – there were definitely no innocent political victims from within the MQM, but instead “the victims” were actually ‘the people of Karachi’ who actually bore the brunt of their ruthlessness. Courtesy of the in-famous Pervaiz Musharraf – 3800 hardened criminals were given the golden handshake and re-infused back into our streets to yet again terrorize us all over again
DAWN: The list showed that MQM chief Altaf Hussain had got withdrawn the highest number of cases against him – 72, including 31 on murder and 11 on attempt to murder charges.
Dr Farooq Sattar, the MQM’s parliamentary leader, occupied the second slot. A total of 23 cases were withdrawn against him, including five on charges of murder and four on attempt to murder.
The third biggest beneficiary appeared to be provincial minister Shoaib Bukhari, of the MQM, against whom 21 cases were withdrawn, including 16 on murder and attempt to murder charges.
The Federal Minister for Ports and Shipping, Babar Ghouri, Sindh Governor Ishratul Ibad, Imran Farooq, Saleem Shahzad, Waseem Akhtar and former MNA Kunwar Khalid Yunus are other prominent MQM leaders who benefited from the NRO.
All these above name individuals hailing from the MQM leadership had been the hallmark of terrorism in the 80′s and 90′s. Criminals are criminals – be they be, direct murderers, or even charged with attempted / assiting to the murder must be taken to task – it is my basic belief that all 8000 people who took refuge from the NRO must be presented before an independent judicial body, presented with complete evidence and tried to the fullest extent in full public view. Knowing the political manipulators that have generally besieged our country – I also fear that this legal process might then subsequently be plagued with tremendous lack of evidence issues, as its possible that the evidences that lead to the initial conviction may also have also conveniently vanished, for which then I feel the judicial body must then scrutinize the case far more closely and in regards to criminal proceedings defer to the side of caution and keep these criminally inclined people off the streets
At the moment I feel all individuals who took advantage of the NRO bill must be forced to resign from their offices / or taken into immediate custody in regards to criminal cases and an immediate public inquiry be launched to prosecute them sadly, each one of these criminals has contributed into destroying Pakistan in some way or another, and simply should not deserve to be given even a second (or even a third) chance. The 180 million Pakistanis deserve to have the power to get rid of their society at least from these 8000 people, others we will handle with time. Let it also be known that the top of the NRO list is Asif Zardari and he must be prosecuted to the fullest and publicly
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Does anyone know what happened to the criminal cases that these 'not so innocent' tried to sweep away via NRO?
Read this:
http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-l...
LOLzzz for Adnan Baloch!
i think he must be praised for his naive "cleverness".
some time he becomes panjabi, some times sindhi and some time pathan and posts the comment in the favor of MQM,constantly since few months.
which organization have supporters like him?
Yar ab purani batain chor do. Jab MQM ne atne ache kam Karachi or hyderabad me krwaiy hain to phir bhi naqdin ki
awaz in k khilaf kiyon uthti hai.me to kehta hon hum sub log
PPPP or Nawaz ko vote de de kar tang a gaye hain ab humain
MQM ko vote dena chaiyan ta pure Pakistan me utni hi Progress ho saka jitine karachi or hyderabad me hui or mustafa kamal ko World 1st Myer ka award diya gaya.
Thanks to All
I am amazaed with the negativity of these thoguhts about MQM and its leader Mr. Altaf Hussain. First about NRO, At the time when this was just cooking everybody and all media was suppporting this initiative and was praising Gen. Musharraf for this piece of Act. In such a short notice there was no other way beside this ACT to let these Criminals come back to Pakistan and to let them take part in proposed elections. In a sense Musharraf provided an even grounds to the peoples of Pakistan to vote for any one they like to and un-fortunately vast majority elected some Criminals on behalf of their Party affiliations which in turn brought some (present) ministers and advisors who are accused criminals.
Everyone in this forum wrongfully decided that the biggest beneficiary of NRO is MQM whereas not even a single example of any other party or individual is given specialy from Punjab. Please have a look into the cases against MQM leaders and just with a little details you will realize that all those cases were based on political victimization. Just go through the list once again and if you have some courage then ask the same questions to the accused peoples who belong to your own party. Instead of calling others with names please think about the master minds who put together all the cases against MQM leadership and the conspiracy behind it. Have you been to Karachi, Hyderabad and some other cities of Sindh in the past 5 years? If not then please either go and see the differance by yourself or just follow the news on net and see the differance MQM elected peoples have made through their hard work in those areas.
Still none of the leading political party has demanded the resignation of Mr. Zardari not because they love him but I believe they are still trying to save the Democracy and dont want to give chance for any Military rule.
We have served enough under Military dictators and none of us want to do that again. I want to let all the accusers to go to respective courts and face their cases in courts specially leadership of MQM who denied to get a benefit from NRO at the time it was introduced and Govt came up with Review Boards suggestion on its own. It was never an idea or proposal of MQM. MQM always faced its cases in courts and get their decisions from there and not from any other kind of amenesties like NRO.
Dear Awab Sahab,
These comment are for those who have declared that I am a PPP supporter.
SHAME ON PPP AND MQM: BOTH OF YOU! [Thuqq Athai - means La'anat Ho]
Both PPP AND MQM have no shame because the day this NRO debate is started they have been screaming loudly and leveling allegation against each other of loot and plunder and killing on 12 May 2007 whereas MQM leader Altaf Hussain proposes Zardari as presidential candidate. Both have no worries and they are least bothered about the miseries of poor people , back breaking poverty, lawlessness, joblessness, unemployment, 45% living below poverty line and what not and now in 2009 they are back to the DIRTY, FILTHY AND TREACHEROUS POLITICS OF 90s. SHAME ON ALL OF YOU.
پاکستان کے صوبہ سندھ کے صوبائی وزیر برائے داخلہ ڈاکٹر ذوالفقار مرزا نے کہا ہے کہ متحدہ قومی موومنٹ کے کارکنوں اور رہنماؤں پر دائر ساڑھے تین ہزار مقدمات فراڈ کے ذریعےختم کیے گئے ہیں اور چیف جسٹس افتخار محمد چودھری اس کا از خود نوٹس لیں۔
’متحدہ کے مقدمات فراڈ سے ختم کیے گئے‘
ریاض سہیل
بی بی سی اردو ڈاٹ کام، کراچ
http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/pakistan/2009/11/091126_...
Scrutiny of the nomination papers would be conducted on Thursday August 28 at the election commission secretariat by the returning officer Justice (eetd) Qazi Muhammad Farooq. Talking to the media outside the election commission office, MQM deputy convener Farooq Sattar said his party has supported PPP Co-chairman Asif Ali Zardari’s candidature for office of the president unconditionally.
Farooq Sattar said the MQM has supported Zardari just for the cause of democracy and wanted same backing from its former government ally the PML-Q. “A decision on our participation in the ruling coalition is up to the discretion of the allies,” he added. The MQM leader said the political and economic stability should be major priority of all democratic forces as the country was passing through defining circumstances. “MQM chief Altaf Hussain has also appealed to our old ally Mian Nawaz Sharif to review his decision,” Farooq Sattar said. REFERENCE:
http://elections.com.pk/newsdetails.php?id=657
Nominations filed for president
Wednesday, August 27, 2008 (14:26 PST)
MQM to support Zardari for presidential slot: Altaf
Monday, August 25, 2008 By By our correspondent
Karachi
http://thenews.jang.com.pk/print1.asp?id=131868
The coordination committee of the Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM) Rabita Committee will support Pakistan People’s Party (PPP) Co-Chairman Asif Ali Zardari for the presidential slot, MQM Founder and Chief Altaf Hussain said Sunday. Addressing a general workers’ meeting at the office of the Khidmat-e-Khalq Foundation (KKF), Altaf asked workers whether they approved the decision of the Rabita Committee. The huge gathering endorsed the decision. He also appealed to the Haq Parast people of Punjab to support Zardari and urged Pakistan Muslim League – Nawaz (PML-N) President Nawaz Sharif to support Zardari for his presidential election and avoid confrontation.
Hussain said that the Jamiat Ulema-e-Islam – Fazlur Rehman (JUI-F) and the Awami National Party (ANP) had also announced to support Zardari, who was at the moment the most suitable candidate as his wife had given her life for the restoration of democracy. Benazir Bhutto’s father and brother also sacrificed their lives for democracy, Hussain said. He asked Sharif to avoid any kind of crisis as the need of the hour at the moment was to remain united. Hussain said that after he had extended support to Zardari it was being given an ethnic colour and the PML-N had started opposing the idea.
Referring to sectarian clashes in D.I. Khan and Parachinar, Hussain said that the MQM could play the role of mediator and bring closer various religious scholars for creating harmony among different sects. He paid tribute to the law-enforcement agencies who are trying to control the highly tense situation in D.I. Khan and Parachinar. He lauded the role of the Adviser to the Prime Minister for Interior Rehman Malik for arranging food and shelter for those people who had migrated. Hussain referred to his past speeches and said they were given a wrong impression and said the MQM was neither against the Pakhtoons nor the ANP. The MQM is against Talibanisation, Hussain said. He stressed that the party would never allow Talibanisation in Sindh, including Karachi as Sindh was the land of Sufis and citizens of this province were peace-loving. He said the people of Karachi were against extremism and any kind of terrorism. He asked the Pakhtoons and the ANP to not get provoked as the MQM was not against them.He also appealed to the well-to-do people to donate generously zakat, fitra and other donations in Ramazan to Khidmat-e-Khalq Foundation (KKF) as this organisation was helping the needy. Hussain’s address from London was simultaneously telecast in 19 cities of Pakistan. A KKF board of trustees was also formed and Dr Farooq Sattar was named its Secretary
General.
In continuation of my message Aamir Mughal Says: November 24th, 2009 at 5:56 am
One more shameful leaf from Pakistan History [recent history]
'شریف النفس'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/urdu/2009/11/post_544.h...
وہ ملک جہاں لاکھوں کروڑوں بے زمین کسان اور کھیت مزدور ہوں، بلکہ ہزاروں لوگ جبری محنت میں بندھے ہوں اور جہاں محض چند خاندانوں کے پاس ہزاروں لاکھوں ایکڑ زمینوں کے رقبے اور جاگیریں ہوں وہاں ہزاروں ایکڑ زمین کے مالک کو 'شریف النفس' قرار نہیں دیا جا سکتا۔
غلام مصطفیٰ جتوئی جیسے پاکستان کے سب سے بڑے جاگيردار کو شخصی طور شریف النفسی کی انفرادیت حاصل ہو تو ہو لیکن سیاسی و اقتصادی طور وہ بھی اس نظام میں غریب مسکین عوام کے جسم پر ایک بڑی جونک ہی تھے۔
یہ تو نواں جتوئی کا پٹواری ہی بتا سکتا ہے کہ وہ زمین کے کتنے رقبے کے مالک تھے لیکن کہتے ہیں کہ سندہ میں ان کی نوے ہزار ایکڑ سے زائد زمین تھی۔ دنیا میں کہیں اور ہو تو ہو لیکن کون کہتا ہے کہ سندھ اور پاکستان میں زمین کا مالک خدا ہوتا ہے
چينی انجنیئروں کو اغوا کرنے والا ڈاکو لائق چانڈیو اس سے قبل ان سندھی قوم پرستوں اور جانو آرائيں سمیت ڈاکوؤں کیساتھ مل کر حیدرآباد سندھ میں تیس ستمبر انیس سو اٹھاسی کے قتل عام میں شامل رہا تھا جس میں تین سو افراد قتل کیے گئے تھے۔ اس کارروائی کا مقصد ملک میں اعلان شدہ وہ عام انتخابات ملتوی کروانے تھے جو ضیا الحق کی موت کے بعد ہونے تھے۔
TO UNDERSTAND THIS WATCH THIS DAWN TV INVESTIGATIVE REPORT.
DAWN NEWS CHANNEL Investigative Program ON MEHRANGATE SCANDAL, Late Mr Jatoi was one of the beneficiary [DAWN News TV Investigation Report with Masood Sharif – 6th January 2008 http://www.sharifpost.com/2008/01/06/dawn-news-tv-...
Altaf Hussain immolate thousand of Karachities for his own benefits and made properties in London. How a middle class man who is unemployed has made properties in London. Obviously, by taking BHATTA from the people of Karachi. MQM is a terrorist mafia and British national Altaf Hussain is a DON….
Its time people of Pakistan rise against the NROed SOBs like Altaf Hussain, Zardari, Nawaz Sharif and all of their clowns.
Shame on MQM.
If Altaf Hussain had any "GHERAAT" he would died by drowning in 'Chulloo bhar pani'.
Shame on Altaf Hussain (Peer Kallan), Imran Farooq, Saleem Shahzad, Abbas Haider Rizvi and other pimps.
altaf husain par lagaye hoay saray ilzam wrong hain or sahi hain tu kohi yai sabit tu karay .he was the first person who was against nro
Pakistan is fighting terrorism and doing a good job at it. President Obama has also acknowledged this fact on the press conference along with Manmohan Singh on the 24th of November; the Pakistani media should also get this message across and cause a sense of unity and faith. The media has the right of freedom of speech and I believe that they can use it to help us raise our voices to fight terrorism instead of focusing on the list of NRO beneficiaries
Altaf bai actually comes topper even by passing Zardari ,u can get back looted money back but u cant get back a life by paying even trillion dollars ,that is why altaf bhai always talks against corruption but never talks of murders he and his party members have done,if mqm is ever going to be a true political party its not possible until the whole top brass of its is hanged.
@ Awab although your motivation to see justice served is right but your blind hatred of a party is shining through.
1) You should be the last person to speak of flip flops, how many times has Imran Khan flip flopped? From shouting from Mushes campaign trucks to bitterly resorting to rhetoric when left out in the cold (i was offered pmship..yeh right) to then supporting Talibans and talking of peace jirgas to then supporting army against then, im not even going to go into him ostracizing Altaf hussain and then trying to patch things up with him..your leader is a wimp and the king of flip flops.
2) I thought you were a key supporter in the judicial movement of late? So since when have you lost all trust in the judicial process with your beloved CJP at the helm let the cases be tried and if there is no evidence then really why and how can we punish or convict someone?
Innocent till proven guilty remember? So stop the witch hunt you are only marginalizing your own self.
Ali K. Chishti,
So you mustered up the courage to come up with your orginal nick this time...you had been visiting this blog and posting comments with other aliases, when MQM dis-owned you...
Honestly, we should unite to correct the rahe-e-rast to catch the goons long been absconding in England, called as Qaid-e-Tehrik (Peer Kallan).
While the money supply line is cut, soon the goon will die of starvation :) and his CHOOS-LOTS, Saleem Shahzad and Imran Farooq will be hanged to death on Peelee Kothee.
And don't worry, the proofs are being recorded so that THE DHAKKAN does not claim a conspiracy again by the 2%.
Please tell THE DHAKKAN to invent some new term, I'm literally tired of this Agency, Establishment and 2% theory.
Soon Insha Allah his fathers will die and there will be no one to make him Karl Marx, Insha Allah.
Wah, Wah Hindi Achi Hai Bhai magar Fatehpur mein tu Urdu he chalte hai!!!
BTW, for more information - during one of the raids on Governor Ishrat's House his newly born baby was murdered as she fell on the floor and died.
Mian' we face a biggest ever national security threat today with the Operation Rah'e'Rast against the Talibans - let's just get united and support our army in killing them now.
Ali K chishti!
Aap kay aanay say to ronaq aagaee hay.
kitna noor aagaya hay teethmaestro par aap kay aajany say....aur kiyoon na aaey subah sham aik maha aatma kay darshan jo hotay hen. aap pay to khas kirpa hay unki.
BTW to me babur ghori and ishrat ul ibad did the right job.
they made money by using their positions......
ab yeh to koee bat naheen huwee kay daka koee dalay chori koee karay aur bhatta koee wasool karay aur khaaey koee aur...let them set their businesses in dubai.
people who have inside information know how ishrat ul ibad intervened and fought for oppointment of corrupt govt officers.
barhay bhai....agar aap hamesha achhay rehna chahtay hen to subah sham unkay nam kay bhajan gatay rahiyay aur dandwat
kijiyay aur mathay par bas Altaf kay nam ka tilak lagaiyay.
aur khabardar bhool kay bhi kisi "muslay" say sampat na kijiyay.dekhiyay kis tarah "muslon" nay dr amir liaqut ka dharam bharsht kia hay.....jay altaf ji ki
By: Ali Raza Abidi
@Casio: Wait for the courts, you aint no one to make a decision on their behalf.. this clearly shows your racism
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I don't even know if it worths answering. At one point you accuse me of racism and on the other hand you mis-spell my name. Isn't that a contradiction on your part or you just trying to walk the thin line of racism yourself?
And just how I became racist if what I said is the apparent truth and not just me but Mr. Aamir and Mr. Maestro providing the insights as well?
Showing racism yourself and accusing others isn't the way to prove a point, its a way of escape. It certainly reminds me about a famous Software house in Karachi whose owners have a lot of money gained via illegal means and they cannot show it in their bank balances. What they do is they siphon some of the money to outside countries, create companies over there without any proper physical setup, develop worthless softwares in their software house, place orders for those softwares of worth millions of dollars for those companies and completely transform that illegal money to lawful gains through legal loopholes.
Pretty cool, eh. Same is what I see happening with NRO now. NAB's hands have been tied up, the legal setup is being turned into comedy show and we are being told to see the results and not being racist. What an advice.
come on...this is the problem of our nation...we are intolerant & cannot accept reality...
khair how about this...if MQM didn't do any bhatta bazi & altaf hussain doesn't drive a cab or doesn't earn anything then who is supporting him & all his tattas in london???
http://www.easenews.net/properties-of-altaf-hussai...
khairrrrrrrr I don't care...the only important thing is that lets kick every corrupt person killer murdered from this country & build Pakistan....I dont know when will this punjabi adlia is gonna prosecute the corruption of sharif & his tattas but I want all of this corrupt leadership out of the country...because we Pakistanis can only get anything if we have justice..
God damn it look at the life style changes of dr ishrat ul ibad and babar ghori. can you tell me how did a chef become resident of DHA? [Dr Jawwad Khan]
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Read Mawdudi's son on JI:
Haider Farooq Mawdudi on Mawdudi and Jamat-e-Islami after Mawdudi.
God damn it look at the life style changes of dr ishrat ul ibad and babar ghori. can you tell me how did a chef become resident of DHA? [Dr Jawwad Khan]
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Dear Jawad Sahab,
There is one big problem i.e. JI, Munawwar appreciate MQM.
JI welcomes Altaf’s advise to President to resign Updated at: 2006 PST, Monday, November 02, 2009 LAHORE: Amir of Jamat-e-Islami (JI) Syed Munawar Hassan has welcomed the advice by Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM) Chief Altaf Hussain to President Asif Ali Zardari to resign. http://www.geo.tv/11-2-2009/52265.htm
with NAB being effectively decommissioned who will present your evidence? [Awab]
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Dear Dr Sahab,
You and your forum used to run campaign to restore judiciary from this platform, one of your another demand was the Treason Trial of Musharraf for the violation of article 6 of 1973 Constitution. NAB was founded by Musharraf after he imposed Martial Law in 1999. Law Enforcement regarding White Color Crime should better be done professionals who are expert in such cases. NAB was run by MI and ISI officers and we all know how much Law they know.
Swift Accountability
Zamir said the ISI together with the NAB was instrumental in pressing the lawmakers to join the pro-Musharraf camp to form the government to support his stay in power. The man, who rigged 2002 polls, spills the beans Sunday, February 24, 2008 By Umar Cheema
http://www.thenews.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=...
In my humble Opinion Justice Retd. Tariq Mehmood [Judiciary Movement] is the best person to head National Ehtisab [accountability] Commission to start "Across The Board" accountability without any prejudice and scrutinize all the cases on merit to differentiate between a genuine case and politically motivated case.
A glimpse:
Martial Law, NRO, NAB & Across The Board Accountability.
Dr.Jawwad Khan, Yaar baray dino baad koye 'mokalma" ho raha hai - khariat tu hai na bhai? umeed hai sub khariat ho ge? Insh'Allah!
Mian' what charges? If you are talking about Babur Ghori he resides in a much posher area of KDA Scheme - 1 Bhai not DHA (DHA mein tu ab doodh walay rehtay hain) anyways, not lot of people really know about Babur Ghori Bhai - his family had always owned La'Roch Catering (prorably one of the largest and oldest catering services in Karachi) and if you know they made money by actually renting their house in North Nazimabad and leasing it out to KFC and other places. Probably too much details? Mian' what's wrong in making legitimate money? Islam and Prophet Muhammad (SAW) encourages people to do business which is halal. If you are then suffering to the Ports and Shipping Ministry Bhai tu who would understand more about the ministry then a Karachi-Wala? BTW, whose the Chef here? Baber Bhai graduated from Karachi University (Political Science - I think) in mid-seventies.
No-corruption charges on an MQM leader was ever charged, Bhai ... may peace be upon you :)(mein acha ho gaya hoon na?) LOL
@Syed Ali Raza Abidi
@ AK chishti!
we are not talking about politically motivated cases against MQM . we are talking about the corruption charges..
God damn it look at the life style changes of dr ishrat ul ibad and babar ghori.
can you tell me how did a chef become resident of DHA?
Why are you deliberately forgetting that MQM ruined the party for the corrupt of this country?
When Imran Khan calls for diminishing political charges and criminal charges on Talibans and Baloch Independent Nationalist - where are you guys? then?
@AKC welcome back - thought you had gone missing ..... but then again how could an MQM post miss the mighty AKC
Im still shocked at how MQM supporters are so easily drumming to a Mantra that MQM did no harm in the 80's and 90's - you dont need to look far - just pull yourself the European Commissions report which was prepared by independent EU investigators in he 90's to list out the string of torture cells and bori-bags of that time and era - the evidence is there, has been documented, but the problem is where might be the evidence now - and who might actually be the prosecutor and who will be the in the defense - mere defects in evidence will enable many criminals with an easy get an -Get-out-Of-Jail-Free card
AKC - MQM is turning a new leaf, this I know - but the history will always hound you - you and I know of its shady past, I even suspect that the 3800 cases might just disappear as the present circus was started by AH - with the definite graciousness of The Establishment - and I am sure promises may have been made well in advance - it is unlike of MQM to hop boats in mid stream without prior commitments and promises - so Yes the cases - by-hook or crook might (most probably) will disappear - in all likelihood leaving AZ in the lurch found absconding to Dubai - leaving the people here in Pakistan burning one effigy after another in his memory - whilst MQM would then again be found perched on top shaking hands with the next leader all over again - Musharraf for 8 years - Zardari for 2 - Nawaz for another - sleeping and unsleeping with the enemy flip-flop-flip > Lotaism (nahh - would hurt your feelings)
Awab,
Blaming PRAC while you, yourself belongs to an opposition party or rather a pressure group (PTI).
As for the cases against MQM, remember the state was against MQM and MQM suffered an all-out operation against MQM - hence, these cases.
As for the AG being the prosecute, victim, defendant himself - remember that the "judge" would from the restored judiciary bro? but having said that on principal there should be an independent commission - make Truth and Reconciliation Commission similar to South Africa..
As for the validity of cases, bhai these cases were in courts since 1992 when the courts were so hostile and even some of these cases didn't stand up in Anti Terrorism Courts setup by Pa'Je..
Awab: REally, how may treasury benches do we have in comparison to the rest in the parliament. Can I get a percentage?
Awab: you see this is where the difference kicks in .. you people are so used to corruption and forced recoveries that you have to generalize. We call it MQF - go find out about it, and lust of it mate :)
As regard to having the courts decide the outcome - Mind you having MQM on the treasury benches - so the AG general will be both the prosecutor and the defense - doesn't it seem ironic that there might be a serious conflict of interest when you present your own cases. with NAB being effectively decommissioned who will present your evidence?
Serious foul play is already in the works - no wonder you are so confident of the outcome
@Ali Raza as a representative of PRAC to say
Altaf Hussain and MQM is supported by his people. He does not need “briefcases”
thats seriously one hell'uva statement to make considering a lot many reports have couriers carrying briefcases to London. Donation money (or did you mean Bhatta) has found its way into quite a lot of unimaginable avenues
Haji Israel: Altaf Hussain and MQM is supported by his people. He does not need "briefcases" His workers support the party and that is more than enough MQM needs to maintain its work, because they dont buy Villas or luxury cars with the donation money.
@Casio: Wait for the courts, you aint no one to make a decision on their behalf.. this clearly shows your racism.
Dr. Jawwad - you may call it "in-tolerence" but we will call it defense. Go to hell, we are proud to have supporter who are willing and active because they believe in something your mental level may not be able to reach to.
ZABAN-E KAHLAQ Kou NAQARA E KHUDA SUMJHO [Farrah]
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Yes indeed..
Expose' on Sardar Farooq Laghari [LAGHARI FAMILY WAS ALLY OF NRO CREATOR MUSHARRAF] and involved in Mehrangate Scandal
one strange thing every one can notice that...
MQM and its supporters have zero tolerance for any kind of criticism. you say a word against MQM,the supporters gather like a group of crows and start clamoring and crying over "condemnation of the Angels"
good or bad the fact is every worker and supporter of MQM understand the importance of propaganda and try to mould the public opinion by argument.
MQM could be any thing but tolerant....i can say with utmost confidence.
It is quite hilarious to read that MQM is innocent. Nothing can be furthest from truth. Even the writers themselves must be laughing like anything saying those words, knowing that the reality is quite opposite.
It is such a famous tag line that every MQM supporter has adopted that "There is no case of corruption". Why would there be? When money can be collected through extortion and bribery, why need corruption from government posts?
Secondly, in those days MQM did managed some seats in province and center but they were never in real state to be able to launder money from national treasury the way they did in the last 6 years. All the years of covert operations helped them to work in background in these past years where they would force the government employees to write them cheques with the desired amount of money allotted to their departments by government. Not just that but receiving money directly from center and bypassing the provincial government removed the check-and-balance that would have ensured scrutiny of the use of funds and tracking of any malicious activity.
As for the past and NRO cases, MQM has been so confident because they backstabbed Zardari at the moment when he was relying on them the most. The simple case being that this brought MQM into a stronger bargaining position with majority of PPP power circle coming under the threat of legal actions after Eid and this brings them to VERY bad position, not to mention the public humiliation with the disclosure of names.
And what do you know, MQM has already done its homework. With the burning of several land and other records under MQM City government and the presence of NRO permitting them to get so many cases dismissed without really checking for proofs through their chosen people, the criminals were freed who took flight out of this country at first available moment.
When culprit is not in Pakistan, how will you run the case against him? And who will want to return back now if the cases reopen?
Secondly, through those chosen people to get the cases dismissed, the evidence would also be made to disappear or fabricated to make the case doubtful. Once a case gets doubtful it is given in favor of the accused. This is what happened in Hakeem Saeed case where on a single point the case was made doubtful and the rightly caught killers were set free despite presence of strong evidence against them.
So, with evidence missing or fabricated, with the accused now out of country and with PPP in a bad position ... what else would MQM want? Let the NRO go, they don't need it anymore. As expected, Zardari got what he deserved.
Why Record of Operation Cleanup against MQM is vanished ffrom MQM Website [1992 to 1996]?
The reason for which Operation was Launched.
United States Bureau of Citizenship and Immigration Services, Pakistan: Information on Mohajir/Muttahida Qaumi Movement-Altaf (MQM-A), 9 February 2004. PAK04002.OGC. Online. UNHCR Refworld, available at: http://www.unhcr.org/refworld/docid/414fe5aa4.html [accessed 30 April 2009]
Pakistan: Information on Mohajir/Muttahida Qaumi Movement-Altaf (MQM-A) Query: Provide information on the Muttahida Qaumi Movement-Altaf (MQM-A) in Pakistan.
Looks like Altaf Hussain didn't get the brief case this time. This bastard and his Chooslots have hijacked Karachi in the name of emotional-cum-racism culture.
The moment he doesn't get a bag of cash this clown and his CHOOS-Lots start blaming Jamatee, Panjabi, Agency.....
Its time to get the fat out of this black saaand.
I hope someday, someone will rise and expose those who during General Zia's days ruthlessly butchered innocent Punjabis, Urdu Speaking, Sindhis and Pashtuns in Riots. Someone must expose those who were behind the massacre of innocent people of Hyderabad in 1988 [more than 200 innocent people died] and then the very next day another ethnic [more than 90 innocent persons were dead] group was targeted in Karachi to create ethnic unrest amongst people of different walk of life though having different political thoughts. Hamid Gul and Imtiaz were incharge of Internal Security those days, least said is better. One clue, a mysterious white colour Charade/White High Roof Suzuki carried out massacre in almost every location.
calling for the trail of loan defaulters [Ali K Chishti]
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Janab Chishti Sahab and Dr Sahab,
Enclosed herewith please find a link [having news clipping of The News] of those are chronic loan defaulters. I hope Awab Sahab would enlarge the News Clipping for every Pakistani to know as who looted them during all these years. News clipping is the end of the post.
NRO, Chaudhry Brothers, PML - Q & Jang Group of Newspapers
http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2009/11/nro-chaud...
One more reminder for Mr Faroqi and Chishti Sahab [s] that former Confidant of General Musharraf i.e. Lt. Gen. Retd. Muzaffar Usamni was a Brigadier in 1992/93 during Karachi Operation and during July and Aug 1992 [one after the start of Operation Clean up] 400 dead bodies of Political Workers of MQM were discovered in Karachi in very bad shape. Go and check the record of old newspapers of 1992. Jasarat is considered Pro JI but several of senior journalist friends in Jasarat had ruthlessly exposed the butchery and debauchery of General Naseer Akhtar and Co.
Awab, if I lodge an FIR against you, will that make you guilty of crime I alleged in the FIR? NO!
We have Zimbabwe and South Africa as an example where the prior government’s had charged opposition with criminal charges and were withdrawn. As for the specific case of MQM, let’s not forget that it is only because of MQM the list is out (remember: MQM’s opposition to NRO? Because of which NRO was never tabled at the parliament). Altaf Hussain’s call for the Truth and Reconciliation Commission was a step in the right direction which should have been accepted but ignored.
Let’s take your argument of actually mapping the credibility or even compare criminal versus corruption charges and for a second forget NRO was never there to start with: even then Sir, with due respect – kindly take following persons negation of Jinnahpur Map because of which Operation Cleanup ever took place:
I. Brigadier Asif Haroon
II. Corps Commander, Lt.General Naseer Akhter
III. Brigadier Imtiaz
IV. Lt.Gen.Asad Durrani
What should be welcomed is MQM’s approach to the issue of actually facing the court which was clear from the opposition to the NRO a month back.
Off the topic, I think the whole NRO Episode now is a part of the in-fighting between two factions of PPP.
Yesterday, I was fortunate enough to actually watch Khadim-e-Ala Punjab, Shabaz Sharif calling for the trail of loan defaulters. Kindly also consider this list of defaults too:
ITTEFAQ FOUNDRIES (PVT) LTD Rs.18 carors, 84 lakhs, 41,000
ITTEFAQ BROTHERS (PVT) LTD Rs. 12 cr, 87 lakhs
BROTHERS STEEL MILL Rs.9 cr. 52 lakhs.
ILYAS ENTERPRISES 56.753,000
FAROOQ BAKTH LTD NOT KNOWN
ITTEFAQ TEXTILE MILLS-I NOT KNOWN
ITTEFAQ TEXTILE MILLS-II NOT KNOWN
ITTEFAQ TEXTILE MILLS-II NOT KNOWN
BROTHERS TEXTILE MILLS LTD 7,400,000
KHALID SARTAJ TEXTILE MILLS LTD NOT KNOWN
KHALID SARTAJ INDUSTRIES (PVT) LTD NOT KNOWN
RAMZAN BAKSH TEXTILE MILLS LTD 200,119,000
BAKTH TEXTILE MILLS NOT KNOWN
ABDUL AZIZ TEXTILE LTD NOT KNOWN
ITTEFAQ SUGAR MILLS LTD 106,574,000
BROTHERS SUGAR MILLS LTD 15,000,000
RAMZAN SUGAR MILLS LTD 146,697,000
ITTEFAQ GROUP SERVICES (PVT) LTD 56,965,000
ITTEFAQ COLD STORAGE NOT KNOWN
ABBAS AND COMPANIES NOT KNOWN
These are the straight forward cases of corruption. Let us keep the constitution,amendments and omelete of half baked potatoe lawyers on one side. [Farrah Shah]
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Dear Ms. Farrah,
I agree with you and since you have advised the Guillotine so let there be a Guillotine for this as well!
Effect of Martial Law Duties
Hamoodur Rahman Commission Report
Blaming and taunting to each other is not a solution. Lower n middle class peoples are still begging for flour and sugar.
Being a Karachiite we know how the barbarism against MQM's worker and leader started by the state. The state terrorism has no justification.
This is only MQM which become the barrier in the way of PPP to make the NRO a legal act, One must keep that in mind. MQM has faced the cases in the past and they are ready to face now too.
Some one said, Those were the darkest era of Pakistan. I'd agree and its all because of pushing one party, the most emerging party of that time towards the wall and a massive propaganda against them being Anti Pakistan and Raw agent, bla bla bla ..So much has to say but lets wait for 28th. MQM is ready and deserve a great applauds to become the reason of NRO not being presented in the assembly.
Altaf hussain admitted the bori killings of innocents or oppostion....did he not said that????
& nodoubt we all have witness the badmaashi of mqm in those 13 years...but what can we do???who else is there to go against these badmaash???
ZABAN-E KAHLAQ Kou NAQARA E KHUDA SUMJHO
Ok but, i am not sure the Puppits of MQM will face legalization of law as the part of NRO in the near future. time will say.. lets wait.
@Amir 12:01
I am extremely frustrated on the lawyers an the constitution amendments.It means constitution is amended to protect the corrupts and evil doers.
it means constitution does not protect the rights of commoners not to be robbed.
it means governments provide immunity to those who embezzle public money ....for how long we will seek justice through the constitution and adliya....
for how long we will repect the constitution which does not respect the public
which secures the right of the few....
I am sorry it is blasphemeous to call such a lame constitution rubbish ....
I know here I sound no different from Gen Zia
But there is a difference one was subjugating the powers of people the other is returning it to people.
People who use government positions to strengthen themselves are breaking the law....it is that simple
Has any lawyer got the shroud of shame to say no to take the case of these corrupts........no
We cannot and must not give in to lame excuses....of course they will protect each other ...
public should march on this.......
This is the time of revolution.
Public wants these people to be prosecuted ......
The politicians would be safe if they accept and return the money and favors ..... because if they do not public is very willing to see public hangings.........
@Doc: Thank you for the praise.
Does'nt it make you wonder when you see that list region wise and find that 90% of the cases are from Sindh? Similarly Baluchistan and NWFP are also angry at the racist attitude of one province?
Secondly, why not wait and see the results from the courts? why try to proove something so miserable when there is no ground ready? only because you saw something in the 90's in Karachi, which millions more were aware off, but you had simply belived the newspapers more than the reality, and MQM-H was your favourite then. MQM has been winning again and again since then, so the reality is different. The problem is that you personally do not have access to the middle class probably, and this is the reason for the grapevine in the "high society" of Pakistan.
Lastly, you are also welcome for the free publicity :)
the horrific 13 years 1986 too 1999 have been the darkest days for Karachi [Teeth Maestro]
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Dear Dr Alwi Sahab and Faroqi Sahab,
Sometime I wonder as to why MQM has deleted all the details of Military Operation [from the period of 1992 to 1995] from their website.
Was it not the MQM that did not support PPP on NRO? If MQM had to take benefit from NRO it would have easily done so. You are blaming the party for the something which it did not do.
That there were cases against MQM workers does not imply that they are criminals. There were cases against Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto, Nawaz Sharif, Benazir Bhutto, Shahbaz Sharif and many more.
You should appreciate MQM for not supporting PPP. Remember NRO was not brought for MQM. International powers brokered a deal with Pervez Musharraf for brining BB to power in the country.
Remember it is the PPP that is crying hoarse over NRO and not MQM.
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