MQM’s Haider Abbas Rizvi challenges with his MNA seat?
Yesterday on ARY in the show ‘Off the Record’ with Kashif Abbasi he interviewed Imran Khan and MQM MNA Mr. Haider Abbas Rizvi. In the heated debate around the 26th minute of the telecast Haider Abbas Rizvi entangles with Imran Khan challenging him to prove with documentary evidence that the Canadian Courts may have declared MQM as a terrorist organization taking the challenge to vacate his MNA if he were to bring documentary proof to support the claim
Click over to on Awaz.tv to watch the show – fast forward to 26:40 minute marker, where Haider Abbas Rivzi brings up the Canadian challenge.
With all the confidence brimming from TV interview maybe its now time to help refresh Mr. Rizvi’s memory with full references to a few Canadian Federal court rulings questioning MQM as a terrorist organization
MOHAMMED KASHIF OMER vs THE MINISTER OF CITIZENSHIP AND IMMIGRATION – May 3, 2007
The decision stated -
Having reviewed the Board’s reasons in light of the evidence presented, I find that the conclusion of the Board to the effect that there are reasonable grounds to believe that the MQM is an organization that engages, has engaged or will engage in terrorism, is reasonable.
The National Post reported the story
The head of the Quebec branch of a Pakistani political party is facing deportation after the Federal Court of Canada ruled he belonged to an organization that committed terrorism. The judge upheld the deportation of Mohammed Kashif Omer, a resident of Montreal, on the grounds he is a member of the Mothaidda Quami Movement, or MQM.
A quick search of the Federal Courts of Canada website reveal a few more cases with MQM can be seen here
- Iftikhar Shoaq Jalil vs The Minister of Citizenship and Immigration
- Naeem v. Canada (Minister of Citizenship and Immigration)
- Jilani v. Canada (Minister of Citizenship and Immigration)
- Ali v. Canada (Minister of Citizenship and Immigration) (F.C.),
- Mohammed v. Canada (Minister of Citizenship and Immigration) (F.C.)
- Baqri v. Canada (Minister of Citizenship and Immigration) (T.D.)
Though these are all federal court rulings and it may technically be incorrect to say that Canadian Supreme Court has declared MQM as a terrorist organization. However, since the federal court judgment has not been challenged in the Supreme Court of Canada, the judgment of the Federal Court stands throughout the territory of Canada as a precedence and hence the interpretation would easily signify that MQM may actually be a terrorist organization
Is it time to show Mr. Haider Rizvi the door out of the Parliament – or will he unabashedly cling onto his seat?
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HUM NA HOON HAMARAY BAAD
ALTAF ALTAF ALTAF ALTAF
HAQ KI KHULI KITAB
ALTAF ALTAF ALTAF ALTAF
HER SAWAL KA JAWAB
ALTAF ALTAF ALTAF ALTAF
LONG LIVE MQM
LONG LIVE ALTAF
Whatever the decision is .. this is fact that MQM is the real bode of terror.. several of their workers are leaving Pakistan and taking political asylum in other countries.. if they are ruling here then who is gonna kill them?.. ridiculous.. and Altaf Bhai!! oh my God .. He must join Bollywood . they really need a villain after Amrish Puri.. Their is not even a single bird in Karachi who can fly without their permission.. and the workers. (Na uzubillah) worship .. Altaf Bhai.. idiots.. if i get permission to hit a single human.. you all know who it will be..
lol Awab, get a life and stop crying every time MQM breathes. That court decision was a small temporary one. Do have any idea how many stupid decisions Pakistani judges have made. Its one case amongst many and the gentleman was later granted asylum when the verdict was challenged.
Filthy ethnic profiling is all you do.
@ Dr. Shb...
toone qasam mai_kashee kee khaaee hai 'GHalib'
teree qasam ka kuchch 'eitbaar naheeN hai !!!
@shaeikh sahib!
yeh masail e tassuwuf, yeh tera bayan ghalib
ham tujhey wali samjhtey jo na bada khawar hota
@ Dr.Sb..
Aik aadmi k tamancha lehranay per terrorist nahi kaha balkay uss aik aadmi ko apne aap ko terrorist kehalwana parta hai aap ki puri Tehreek ki waja se !!!
Stop passing the ball across dear and face the music.
@ali bhai!
aap bhi kamal shakhsiyat hen. aik aadmi ke tamancha lehraney par aap ney poori PTI ko terorrist declare kar diya.
Terrorists of PTI exposed in Karachi
Million Dollar question
Who would get us (Muhajirs) out the MQM-quagmire?
-Army? only if they get $$$$ from our Masters
-Zardari? only if he gets orders from our Masters
-Votes? only if Muhajirs can really vote without any fear
-Imran Khan? sorry, this was dumb option.
-Gilani? he is busy 'boob-pressing' the nation.
-Talal Bugtee?he is busy murdering Pakistanis in Baluchistan.
http://www.friendskorner.com/forum/f162/talk-show-...
mqm blaming the people for poor survey showing of mqm. "awam akal sey paidal hain".
Rizvi hai kidder gya mendate khi ka :)
If you oppose MQM, suddenly the MQMers would start to call you jamateee, agency wala and now they have found one more title "Imran Khan wala"....
If people could buy brain, I would have suggested these people to spend the 'bhatta' money on buying some brains.
Well tell your grand Mafiaso, Altaf Hussain the Brits bear the medical expenses of their stooges, so why don't he get his mental health checked at the expense of Brits tax payer money.
emigi:
my fellow pakistani i applaud you for your clearing out this mis conception that altaf represents all the down trodden let alone muhajirs.
every politician is corrupt and power hungry but i have not yet heard of a politician like that faggot altaf who still carries arms. I mean i am no ppp supporter but tell me why should mqm's blackmailing be tolerated to such a high extent that whatever they say zardari sends some one rushing to the head faggot aka altaf ? Its even zardari knows that these bastards start shaking karachi to coerce the government for meeting their demands. their good work will go to waste like it is because on these same concrete roads and fly overs that they build , they sniped people on may 12th .
Abidi,
I will not bother responding to your statement that you do not want him in pakistan. it quick clearly validates my earlier stance, that he is not the only leader whose life is supposedly threatened. if he can see hundreds of his followers murdered over the past many years, he should have the balls to come to karachi, which he supposedly rules. how come benazir and nawaz had the courage to do that? I hate them more than altaf, but i will give them the card of courage. If you ask me, altaf is a PUSSY.
I think imran khan is equally stupid, please dont mix up two issues. i will tackle that seperately. the point i am making is that i am a so called "MAHAJIR", but i do not support altaf hussain. Although i do think the mqm is doing some really good work, unfortunately it is overshadowed and tainted by its mafioso organizational style, defined by its leader.
My ultimate point is that i want the world out there to know that there are people from my ethnic group who despise altaf hussain and his politics. not all urdu speaking people support altaf hussain, infact we hate him more than others.
Regards//
@ Haji Israel...
I would request you to travel Back to the place "Israel" as your names refers to where you belong and stop the propaganda against Pakistan & MQM.
@Dr.JK: your initials are enough to determine your seriousness towards politics. You will never understand, so its useless to explain to you.
"WE DO NOT WANT HIM IN KARACHI because we know that there is the most popular individual following of Mr. Altaf Hussain than any other leader alive in Pakistan. Hence, we DO NOT wish to take any risks with his life"
(Syed Ali Raza Abidi)
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lolzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.and he appericiated your concerns and left the country with heavy heart.hahahahahahahha
and due to forcing by the well wishers like you he became a british citizen. goooood
and now as a british citizen he has moral obligations to gaudie the pakistani nation.that is tooooo gooooood
and as since 17 years he was guaiding from far far land i suppose if he spend 17 more years then he will become NELSON MANDELLA of pakistan...hahahahahahhahahah too good brother
kahan se aaya hey yeh leader.
kahan chala gaya he yeh leader.
aur kia keh raha hey yeh leader.........hen ji????
@emgi: I said that!
1. WE DO NOT WANT HIM IN KARACHI because we know that there is the most popular individual following of Mr. Altaf Hussain than any other leader alive in Pakistan. Hence, we DO NOT wish to take any risks with his life. But I ask why is it a problem, has he asked for any office position so far in the political career of 30 years? People vote for Mr. Altaf Hussain and NOT Mr. Haider Rizvi, this should be clear to you. While in all other political parties, people vote for their respective personalities.
2. Whats wrong with him a British Citizen? The Constitution of Pakistan allows you to hold dual nationalities, so the it is a right well deserved and granted by the people of the Kingdom as per their immigration laws. Really this shouldnt bother anyone. If Imran Khan has a case, he should pursue it, but you can NOT label anyone as a criminal until proven guilty in court of law, as it falls under the penalties of defamation of cyber crimes ordinance 2002.
3. Who told you detractors are shown the door? pure baseless hearsay.
But what about the challenge? anyone care to comment on the result?
RESPONSES TO MQMers
someone here said that you must support a group that is closest to your idealogy. well, actually speaking, that would probably be the PPP or the MQM, both left of centre with a secular agenda - important points to someone like me. but i think a leader makes a big different, and until there is someone like zardari or altaf running these parties, I cannot support them.
QUESTIONS:
1. Why doesnt altaf hussain come back to pakistan? what is he scared of? benazir had the guts to come back, as did nawaz sharif. Musharraf has the guts to stay in the country. Imran khan still has the gutts to come to Karachi, despite the very possible threats from the MQM.
WHAT IS SO SPECIAL ABOUT ALTAF HUSSAIN THAT ALLOWS HIM TO RULE, YES I SAID RULE, HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE, SITTING IN A FAR AWAY LAND?
2. Why is he a British citizen? This is disgusting.
3. If he claims to be so democratic, why does he run a party where no one has the gutts to every criticize him? How come all detractors are shown the door? How is this democracy?
Let it be known my mqm friends, there is NO SMOKE WITHOUT FIRE. Altaf Hussain is not just a crook, he is a muderer, liar and destroyer of dream of a number of Karachites and Pakistanis like me.
If this dog leaves the MQM, i can assure the party i will consider supporting it, and so will many others like me.
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@Liaqatabadi and Haji Sb.
GRAND MAFIA BOSS??? man look at what Imran Khan is supporting.. the Taliban, who are proven extension of the Al-Qaeda, who are proven extention of the CIA... so why this attitude? by asking for stopping of the operation against Imran's brother, is allowing him to carry on the agenda of India and RAW against Pakistan. Look at the bigger pictures your Tehreek-e-Intiqaam is drawing.
Also comparing to Hitler and his army, is only because of Jemimah.. she is obviously against the so called holacaust where hitler allegedley killed 6 million jews, this is why Hitler was called a facist? oh yes, and to clear your mind little boy, if MQM was a facist organization.. you wouldnt be here talking all this crap. We wouldnt have had any opposition! get it?
@Jinbaba: No MQM would not kill the rickshaw, taxi, bus, truck drivers or chai wala's, shakarkandi wala, kachray wala, hotel wala, waiter, tandoor wala, etc... because these people are a need of the city. It is your asswiped Imran Khan of the Jews who want to embed into your dirty minds that MQM is against Pashtoons... Mind you Mr. Harry, MQM is against the conspiracies of ANP and their activities of terrorism, lang grabbing, and killing. Do you know that these ANP wala's have killed more of their own than in any other conflict? Get your facts straight Mr. blind and deaf and STFU and let us work to save the country from disintegration. Listen to Zaid Hamid's latest declaration of ANP and its activities and also visit islamabadobserver.com to see the brothers of Imran Khan is true actions against our forces.
@KAA: Down with racist Imran Khan, ANP, Taliban, Jamaat-e-Islami, JUI, PPI and all other ANTI-STATE political parties - They are the biggest of any terrorist organization.
Unlike your thin self centered alignment in politics i am a supporter of the masses. I have supported whatever has benefited the masses . I am above your petty muhajir and punjabi politics. I have no problems with anyone except people who brandish guns. I have lost one of the greatest man on the face of this earth for muslims ZAB and not even threw a stone . Mqm has done some commendable work for karachi ( and hyderabad during the musharraf years , ironically their rule extended through out sindh yet sindh remains as barren as ever , then i can safely say they have done something for their constituents only) and thank for confirming it by limiting mqm to favoring muhajirs only ..its the only ethnic party which is in the ruling coalition then..it should also rename it self to muhajir quami movement..and altaf hussain shud STFUP and stop claiming he represents all people regardless of their ethnic background. and this response youve posted is a joke. he keeps repeating that hes been misunderstood for the first 3 mins and then goes on to explain how muslims of pakistan india and bangladesh could have consolidated and been better than what they are now.first off what he said in india was " i request the indian government to take muahjirs back " .....punjabis.sindhis pathans and balochis who have thier leaders killed , and dignity taken away are to be left behind.....un patriotic. and you know it too , had some one else said it you guys would be asking for his neck. and even philosophically , he disagreed with quaid e azam , i dont know about you mr chisti but he is liable for treason for speaking against the founder's sacrifice in a country that is waging war against us in swat under the guise of the pseudo taliban. death unto altaf hussain . long live muhajirs sindhis pathans punjabis and balochis. may thier generations get rid of zardaris and altafs and nawaz sharifs
Sheikh Mohammad Nehad,
Very well said. If MQM wants only MEN and WOMEN, then what is Altaf Hussain doing in MQM?
Why would MQM kill poor rickshaw drivers, taxi drivers and chaey walas
I don't really understand why. If these people were land mafia clan, then they wouldn't be driving rickshaw, taxi and selling chaey...
and still yet when MQM is loosing its vote bank.
Here is why
Ethnic groups like MQM, thrive only when there are clashes between ethnic groups
MQM is trying to annoy the pathans, so that a drug dealer group of them would do a blood bath just like Qasba Colony and Aligarh
Not only will it strengthen MQM
MQM will be able to demand any thing it wants- Remember how GEO has been hijacked by MQM.
Just imagine a pathan runs along Orangi and kills people. And somebody makes a video of that, Geo will play the video all day and all the people will be in favor of MQM
GOD FORBID
Ali,
Well, lets just say not more than 10 people vote for Imran Khan.
But he doesn't murder people like the GRAND MAFIA BOSS: Altaf Hussain and his blind followers.
Hitler had more support than Altaf Hussain, did it make him right?
Chootiaa chaley gaey london,
chor gaey yahn sarey dhakkan
Waisay the proverb fits 100% to Imran Khan, "Batain Karoron Ki Dukaan Pakoron Ki". What the hell Imran Khan and the party is?? What mandate do they have? Just one seat from Mianwali!!! Woh bhi rishtadaron kay votes. *lols*.
If Imran Khan has so respect for the Western Courts/Laws then he should according to the laws pay the child support to Sita White for Tyrian Jade, his illegitimate offspring.
It seems that the verdict(based on googling) of a small court of canada is a matter of great pleasure to some of the people therefore lets celebrate all together the verdict of Canadian/US Governments to mark Taliban as terrorists who inturn was a product of US-ISI-Jamaati nexus. And everybody should also love whatever these western countries are doing with Muslims.
If Imran Khan has so much respect for the rulings of western courts then he should also bow to the Los Angeles court's ruling deeming Imran Khan as the father of an illegitimate girl.
By the way Imran Khan should leave the politics now because he is now failed to prove that MQM is being marked as a terror group. He is failed to prove in the Los Angeles court's ruling hence constitutionally he cannot contest for the Pakistani parliamentarinship.
And although it’s quite evident that it was a Federal Court and not the Supreme Court which give out the decision. Let me even go a bit further as why this decision at the Federal Court was even given.
It was based on “choice or a point of view of an immigration officer” as the immigration officer “selected one out of two packages of information” at one specific case. So the decision which by the way had no effect on MQM was not actually as attack on MQM as a political party but was a clear case of racial profiling against Asians and nothing else…
@ dr.jawwadkhan
the verdict you are showing are initial findings of a person he got from INTERNET.
Kindly read why judge came to know about terrorism.
@Awab: Canadian Defense Minister Peter Gordon MacKay just said "Pakistan is the most dangerous country in the world" shouldnt we be negating this? and leave our politicans alone and save the damn country from collapsing.
1. There has been no deportation taken effect.
2. Supreme Court did not declare MQM as a terrorist organization like Imran Khan and his followers claim.
@Dr.JK: You can say all you want! but you cannot ignore the fact that it is the only party that talks of progress, development and representation of the masses of Pakistan. Hence, it continues to grow. Most of what you have mentioned CANNOT be proven as its baseless propaganda you have been fed. If you never see the other side or objectivity of a situation you will always hate your representations. Here Imran Khan challenged Syed Haider Rizvi at MQM was declared a terrorits organzation by the Canadian Supreme Court. The decisions you have shown again and again are of a federal court, please check this link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Canada_Court_Sys... so when the Supreme Court of Canada is approached the ruling will finalize then.
@jabeen!
if i produce the canadian court verdict,would you stop supporting altaf hussain? i don't think so.because pakistanis are not capable to see beyond their biased mentality.
here is the link:
http://reports.fja.gc.ca/eng/2006/2006fc246/2006fc...
@syed ali raza abdi!@emgi
spoken on the behalf of the hundred of thousands of karachites like me.
the facts are the facts.
the fact is altaf hussain ran away from his people.
the fact is now he is a british citizen.
the fact is MQM is nothing more then a political mafia.
the fact is MQM is playing a dirty game by destroying innocent pashtoons in karachi.
i don't mind if MQM attack on land mafia, transport mafia,drug mafia and other countless mafia.but what it is doing against pashtoons is extremely dangerous and is the conspiracy against the citizens of khi. they again want to drag this city in pits of violence,death and destruction.
just for little political gain.
@EMGI: app ka koi ilaaj nahi hai... if you want your voice heard you need to make exceptions and accept a political party to get your message accross which is the closest to your ideology.
@AWAB: Abb to mann jaoo! IK's Propaganda has been answered.. please ask him to go back to Israel.
awab alvi your post didn't carried the verdict of canada supreme court it mean haider abbas rizvi won and imrna khan had to leave politics.
Lets leave this fight alone for a good news !!
All PTI lovers.. get proud .. !!!
BEGUM NAWAZISH ALI in HIS/HER last program showed interest to join PTI.
I want to congratulate all the PTI members for having another KHUSRA of its kind in your party.
And surely will recognize that MQM is about Men & Women, you keep collecting KHUSRA(s).
Thank You.
i am disgusted at the way this AKC chap is talking here. it shows you how the mqm cult mentality filters through. i myself am an urdu speaking karachite (hate the word muhajir) and would like to let you all know that the mqm is only part representative of our ethnic group. there are lots of us so called muhajirs who absolutely detest the mqm and its mafia style operations. you only need to look at the state of their uneducated murderer leader to know what the party stands for. granted not everyone in the mqm is violent, but the fact that they treat this altaf hussain guy like a god is blasphemy. down with altaf and down with the mqm. i will support them if farooq sattar, mustafa kamal and the likes break ranks with altaf ghaddar hussain.
Imran Khan admits adultery !
Will Mr. Iftikhar Ch. take Suo Moto action and ban Imran Khan to take part in politics ???
"As for Sita, I never claimed to be an angel. I’ve never glossed over my personal life. I admit my faults but have since undergone an inner transformation. Spirituality has made me a better person.’"
@Mustafa: dude, what does it matter if he is here or there? He is a very precious person for the stability of the party and "no chances" will be taken. We DO NOT want him here. Really no one should have a problem, as he himself has never contested any seat of Govt office, but he is the only one running the movement. Mind you its growing faster than you think mate!
hey guys did you see this:
http://reports.fja.gc.ca/eng/2006/2006fc246/2006fc...
what a son of a gun hyder abbas rizwi is
Pehlay Khan sahab bradford uni k chancellor ki seat say hatay tou acha lagay ga k unkay moo say goron k khilaaf baatien. Altaf hussain tou tatto hai goron ka hamaray sub politicians goron k tatton hain.
Anyways, hamaray larnay say kuch nhi hoga bhai mere, ALLAH k wastay dilon main gunjaish paida karo ager koi bhi kuch sahi karta hai ya acha karta hai tou ussay appreciate karo na k ulta usmay bhi burraiyain dhondo.
Be optimistic.
Again and always Pakistan first and Pakistan Zindabad.
Mustafa bhai baat sumjhanay k sumjh main atti hai thopnay say sumjh main nhi atti, mere dost baat yeh hai NS sahab baray leader hain laikun zid bachoon ki tarah ki. Is tarah ager her koi karay ga tou kya hoga?
Kher behus karnay ka faida nhi hai, humay atleast apus tou itehhad paida karna chahiye. Kindly accept each other.
Pakistan zindabad.
Ammad, i don;t think so Ik is against Gora;s infact he talks against US policies, and bhaai sahab whats wrong if he's the chancellor of Bredford uni.
Tum log kaam shaam nahi kartey? Only if people were more educated in Pakistan, these fitna minded politicans would'nt be able to raise a single vote for what they have done. To be honest, I am disappointed with our own mentality. These people (all politicians) have looted us, made fool of us, killed un-countable number of important people that mattered for their own reasons & enmity and we are just like a bunch of douche-bags still vouching for them, citing their quotes, debating against & for them & some even go a step further to disrupt the whole country.
Obviously, raising & sharing your opinion is everybody's right. But dont you think its about time that each & everyone of these politicians should be shut-down in a cave & bombarded by drone attacks. If only this would happen, we will have a better life in less than 2 years.
Hope Obama is reading this blog.
Just my 2 cents.
yaar yeh argument ke bb aur ns bhi tu bahir He un se bhi tu poocho ab purana ho gaya ha.. BB the brave lady came she gave her life. this is called bravery. same goes for NS, he came and organized his party, played vital rule in LONG MARCH, yaar jo bhi ha jese bhi ha us ny apni baat manwai. on the other hand your Altaf kalia who mourn and weep for Pakistani Nation londong me betha ha ku ke us ko dar ha ke establishment use marwa dy gi.. Darpok, cowardice..















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