Silence of the Lambs
Silence of the Lambs
By Samad Khurram
Back in 2002, I was returning from Friday prayers when I saw an unusual gathering of singing and quasi-dancing Mullahs. Unusual because I had always assumed Mullahs to be against all types of Kuffar (Art). The amused crowd were listening to chants of “Taliban aa gayay, Taliban aa gayay”. I smirked. As if! Pakistan is a nuclear country with the seventh largest army. We’re safe.
The Mullahs’ songs have been answered – the Taliban indeed are coming. And with them the cowards are bringing a lifestyle that destroys everything Pakistan and Islam.
Oh no. Wait! This guy is on the paycheck of those who are trying to break Pakistan. Taliban are heroes, its America which is wrong. Yes, this is the typical self defense mechanism coming to full force. Having nothing to lose, and having been already declared a CIA agent earlier in life I suppose I’ll continue. Continuing with a genuine fear, that these words are falling on either deaf or hostile ears. Mohammad Ali Jinnah’s Pakistan is over if all this chaos continues.
Jinnah’s Pakistan is a dream gone wrong. Perhaps if he knew that the dreamland for living in peace, harmony, religious tolerance and freedom was going to become arena for public flogging where laughs of sadist barbarians and the screams of minors will echo, he would not have decided on creating it. Had he known that there would be more suicide bombs in his country than any other place in the world, where fundos would go around the cities threatening women to become religious, where school children would have to undergo security protocols as if they were in a war zone, would he have even bothered to work for the green and white?
Still, Pakistan is not what we worry about. All our esteemed talk shows chatter on is whether there should be 17th Amendment or not and on the statements by America and India. Yes, American drones and Indian statements are a threat to our sovereignty. Yes, the balance of power is important. But even when the Taliban have killed more people than India, American Drones or our tyrant rulers, taken over more of our land and have made us feel more unsafe than anyone else in the past thirty years? What other definition of sovereignty is there than protection of lives and property of people, maintaining writ of the state across the territory and having people feel secured? Why can we have some programs discussing the atrocities of the Taliban, the acts of terror that they do and how they have destroyed Pakistan?
No, it’s the “Hindu Zionists” (notice the contradiction?) working on a CIA sponsored conspiracy to break Pakistan. There are the good Taliban who fought the Kuffar off and the real issue is the CIA. Arguably everyone has all the time in the world to devise every action we do, plan it to perfection and then make the evidence of their involvement disappear. Are we really that important for the rest of the world to worry about when they have their own countries and problems to tend to? Even if the Taliban are foreign funded should does that not mean we should double our efforts? Remember when India briefly occupied few territories near Lahore in 1965 how the whole country ran to defend it? My grandfather had stories of people going with sticks to support the army. I am afraid I will not have any such stories of patriotic resistance to tell anyone when another enemy has taken control of a fourth of NWFP and roughly one twentieth of Pakistan. Perhaps we should ban “Yeh watan tumhara hai, tum ho pasban is kay” for it seems no one really care about Pakistan, except the Zionist Hindus of course.
But no, remember the glorious days of the Caliphs? Remember the great Pakistani Fauj, who under the Ameer-ul-Momineen, Zia –ul – Haq, which crushed the Russians? This is only a plan to make America taste the same fate! Yes thank you Zaid Hamid. For a nation which already lives in denial, your conspiracy theories are all we need to turn us completely schizophrenic. Army is great and it will deal with any task assigned to it. More of the same comes from everyone turning patriotic everywhere. This automatic knee-jerk mechanism has seeped in our blood and shut off our brains.
For the love of God can anyone explain me why the great Army of Allah, whose laurels we sing from the day we are born, has still not been able to jam radio stations pouring terror in Swat? Have the core commanders not even tried asking the army engineers how radios work and how easy it is jam them without even having to be in the line of fire? Can they not even figure out if they only played “Who let the Dogs out” at the frequencies the Taliban use it would stop this vitriol? Why is it that these Taliban leaders can appear before journalists in broad daylight and roam freely without any trouble even when they claim responsibility of attacking Pakistanis across the country?
Perhaps the real question I should ask is why do I even care? When I took time off from Harvard to be part of the lawyers’ movement I had seen a ray of hope. There were concerned citizens and lawyers who stood for what was right no matter what the consequences. We fought for a principle and won with the hope that things will slowly improve. Today the very judges we had faith in released the cleric of Lal Mosque whose crimes everyone knows about. If the judiciary was going to release people whose crimes were recorded on TV perhaps it does explain why Taliban are spreading like an incurable cancer. Imagine who would be hanging in “khooni chowk” had Mullana Abdul Aziz kidnapped a few Taliban officials or fought against them and killed their men?
Yet when you think all’s over, somehow someone comes up. Someone whose name keeps your head from drowning. Perhaps this sick torture has to be long and painful where we chase mirages of oasis, never to really reach their. Perhaps for all the atrocities we have committed to our own people require us to be made an example of so no other nation follows our path. Why do ray of hopes like Afzal Khan, who has socked it up to Taliban and refused to be removed from Swat alive, appear every now and then? However he stands to die in the rain. Alone. Can anyone please name one Pakistani leader who has said the same? Forget that has anyone Pakistani leader said that he will go and get the Taliban to give up their arms? Will the real leader who can get rid of these monsters stand up? Imran Khan? Qazi? Nawaz Sharif? This silence is criminal!
What’s worse that these leaders of ours have unanimously approved a state within a state run, which is not accountable to anyone, absolves all crimes of the Taliban and gives a safe haven to those who are there to kill us? What sort of a Nizam-e-Nonsense is this when no one even tried to debate the issue properly and even consider for a second that giving blanket amnesty to the Taliban might not, even if it be infinitesimal, the right thing to do? No for the politicians this does not matter. All they are interesting in mudslinging at each other and more ministries. Our media and sheeple are busy devouring the latest gossip while Pakistan burns.
But unlike what people think it will not be because of Zardari’s corruption or Gilani’s incompetence or Salman Taseer’s whiskies. We have survived them in the past, and so we’ll do again. However any country that has fallen to the Taliban has never recovered. The Taliban are here to stay and unless we stand up against them in every possible way Pakistan will be lost – for good! It will be the silence of the lambs which destroys us. You will be responsible if Pakistan fails.
The writer is a student at Harvard University and turned down an award from the US ambassador as a mark of protest against killings of Pakistani soldiers by US drone attacks.
Shorter Version of this appeared in The News on Monday, April 20
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Zia Nawaz & Benazir had brought taliban into Pakistan & all you should thank them for this precious gift. They groomed falsely taliban to kill kafars in Afghanistan coz US was funding for jihad(architectured by the these THREE).
And then Mush(Zias gaddi-nasheen military dictator), Zardari (Benazirs gaddi-nasheen) & Nawaz are killing Taliban in Pakistan & Afghanistan coz now US is funding against jihad.
Check out the level of humanity of the these Pakistani rulers, how much low these rulers can go!!!
They kept taliban illiterate, provoked & groomed falsely taliban for jihad to get $$ & now killing them to get $$ again.
This is what these rulers do with human beings, first groom them falsely & then kill them, once your job is done.
And what Imran Khan is insisting that a bullet can't undo your false grooming but only by bringing them into political process & you can gradually de-groom(isolate) them.
Looks like Pakistani Fauj is in action in Swat, repeating the Lal-Masjid story....
Good work, General Kiyani, Insha Allah people will remember you in the same honor as they remember Musharraf.
Finally a sane article. No wonder u guys label a thinking man a CIA agent.
"I have found worst scum of earth in Jamat-e-Islami and IJT "members e.g. back stabber [Mohsin Kush] of worst kind, deceivers, adulterers and sanctimonious pricks"
man! that's new.
adulterers?????
sanctimonious pricks?????
i wonder where the bhashan about kind behaviour is gone?
yeh ilzam to MQM waley bhee naheen lagatey.
"I have found worst scum of earth in Jamat-e-Islami and IJT "members e.g. back stabber [Mohsin Kush] of worst kind, deceivers, adulterers and sanctimonious pricks"
man! that's new.
adulterers?????
sanctimonious pricks?????
i wonder where the bhashan about kind behaviour is gone?
I have found worst scum of earth in Jamat-e-Islami and IJT members e.g. back stabber [Mohsin Kush] of worst kind, deceivers, adulterers and sanctimonious pricks.
A Minor Glimpse of Mawdoodi's 'Pure Islamic Training' to Jamat-e-Islami Fascist Student Wing IJT as per daily news papers and then read detail history of Jamat-e-Islami's Terrorist Wing IJT.
Dawn Nov 2007
LAHORE, Nov 15: A large number of Punjab University students on Thursday held a protest demonstration against Islami Jamiat Tulaba (IJT) for its manhandling of Pakistan Tehrik-i-Insaaf Chief Imran Khan.
Dawn Nov 2007
SWABI, Nov 15: The Awami National Party, Pakistan Muslim League (N) and Pakistan Tehrik-i-Insaf which are in the All Parties Democratic Movement (APDM) on Thursday asked Jamaat-i-Islami to stay away from their protest to be held here on Friday.
Dawn Nov 2007 by Ayaz Amir
This brings me to Imran Khan’s manhandling at the Punjab University, Lahore, by activists of the Islami Jamiat-i-Tulaba, the student wing of the Jamaat-i-Islami. Not only was he prevented from holding a demonstration and courting arrest, as he had intended, but he was seized and confined in one of the departments before being handed over to the police. Words fail me to describe this shameful incident. But Imran has not been diminished by it. He continues to stand tall. He is a brave man who has showed great courage during the post-martial law period. It is the Jamiat and its parent body, the Jamaat, which look small. Manhandling one of the few national heroes we have and then handing him over to the police: can anything be more despicable? But even in evil there can be some good. If May 12 exposed the true face of the MQM, Nov 14 has revealed the ugly face of the Jamiat and the Jamaat. Qazi Hussein Ahmed’s populist posturing had led many simpleminded souls to believe that the Jamaat had changed its spots. The incident with Imran dispels such illusions.
The Jamaat remains wedded to an ideology suspiciously close to fascism, (which makes one wonder about the uses to which Islam has been put in this country). From Gen Yahya onwards it has worked as a handmaiden of our spook agencies, the dark forces who have always undermined democracy. As a matter of policy its student wing has practiced unabashed violence to promote its political ends. Indeed, when the definitive history of the collapse of Pakistani education is written, the Jamiat’s ‘danda-bardar’ (baton-wielding) tactics will figure prominently in it.
Dawn Nov 2007
It is also important to take note of the IJT’s behaviour. The group has more or less terrorised the Punjab University for the last year or so, bullying the administration into taking certain decisions like shutting down the musicology department or disrupting cultural functions. The self-professed morality police seem to be upset that Mr Khan was invited to the PU campus without their knowledge, as if the university is their sole turf. This self-righteous attitude coupled with coercive force — similar to another fiery ethnic student group’s in Karachi — has never been taken to task by university administrations or the political leadership of the parties the student groups belong to. This time a JI leader has condemned the behaviour of IJT but it must be followed through by stern action against them. No student group should have a monopoly on campuses.
Dawn Nov 2007
Imran Khan came to the campus in the face of ‘stay-away’ warnings from Islami Jamiat-i-Talaba. He was pushed and shoved and insulted and thrown to the keepers not long after. Did the Jamaat-i-Islami leadership know what was about to happen or was it a personal initiative of their student wing to assail the idol? While the first possibility is highly unlikely in the case of ‘the most organised political force in the country’, in either case it is as dangerous an occurrence for the Jamaat as it is for Imran Khan and his Justice Party. For the Jamaat is nothing without its ‘likeminded’ allies.
BORN-again Muslims are not good enough for Islamists. The sorry drama enacted on the Punjab University campus in Lahore on Nov 14 should solve the mystery for those emerging from the sidelines to claim the command of a team of motivated students in whose selection and training they have played no part.
Hey Samad Khurram,
The fight you wanted has already started in Karachi by MQM, they have started to kill pashto-speaking 'talibans' in karachi.
When are you joining this 'Mara-Maree'? you can atleast write something to justify it.
Hey Samad Khurram,
The fight you wanted has already started in Karachi by MQM, they have started to kill pashto-speaking 'talibans' in karachi.
When are you joining this 'Mara-Maree'?
Aamir Mughal, Sir, btw do have a blog on seculars/marxists , and Takfir wal hijrah ? if you don’t, could you right one ![Reflection]
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Dear Sir,
More precise and to the point:
Munawar Hassan, Sufi Muhammad, Jamat-e-Islami, Mullahs & Calamity of Takfir (Apostasy)
ready to be punished? do you have any idea of punishment in hereafter?
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Dear Jawwad Sahab,
Yes I have complete faith on the punishment for sing in the life hereafter which starts just after your death from your grave till the judgement day and I also have a belief that on Judgement Day after further Interrogation i.e. Joint Interrogation Team more Punishments are awaiting me but despited all this I have a more firm belief on these:
On the authority of Abu Hurayrah (may Allah be pleased with him), who said that the Messenger of Allah (PBUH) said:
When Allah decreed the Creation He pledged Himself by writing in His book which is laid down with Him: My mercy prevails over my wrath. [Muslim, Bukhari,Nasa'i and Ibn Majah).
Therefore I would request you to enjoy the life and leave slavation and punishment to Allah.
i don't see any reason for banning you.
aapke aaney se to teeth maestro men ronaq aagaee hey. ;)
I know very well that these are the vices which are disliked in Islam and I am indulged in these at my own risk and I am ready to be punished in the life hereafter.
(amir mughal)
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ready to be punished?
do you have any idea of punishment in hereafter?
every one is sinner no one is clean.but you should not preach some thing what you do not do because it make you a munafiq.
hahahahhahahahhahahahhaa then you must be a reaserch analyst in samosa,pakora and paan. i told you this copy/paste is annoying for every one even for those who agree with you. [Dr Jawwad Khan]
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Dear Jawwad Sahab,
Use your deomocratic Right [but its Kufr for the Deobandi Taliban] and lodge protest with Dr Alvi and demand ban on me.
Regards.
For Mr Samad Khurram,
Ms Shireen M Mazari should apply for the POST OF LADY QAZI IN SWAT. Dear Sir Imran Khan keep it up.
Ignorance and intolerance confusing the issues Shireen M Mazari Wednesday, April 22, 2009
http://thenews.jang.com.pk/daily_detail.asp?id=173...
Hysteria, intolerance and ignorance are certainly not solely the hallmark of the Taliban, as I discovered last week when I defended the actual Nizam-e-Adl Regulation on television in terms of its content. Immediately, choice abuses – ranging from comments about by girth to the need for me to seek employment in Swat – were unleashed through the internet by the ignorant, hysterical and intolerant self-appointed "liberals". It was all these apologists for western "secularism" could do to stop themselves from actually telling my spouse that I was wajib-ul-qatl in their "liberal" eyes! But then I have a thick political skin, having survived the Left-JI alliance at Quaid-i-Azam University for 16 years!
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Ansar Abbasi & Jang Group's latest somersault on Islam, Shariah and Sufi Muhammad.
hahahahhahahahhahahahhaa
then you must be a reaserch analyst in samosa,pakora and paan.
i told you this copy/paste is annoying for every one even for those who agree with you.
Comment by Hussain on April 22, 2009 @ 9:28 am Amir Mughal,
Please don’t make teeth maestro’s blog as your scratch pad. It would be a blessing on the people of Pakistan if you get a job or in other words get a life. You write books instead of comments. What do you do for living? if you are posting such long comments. I bet your dad was “wadera” from Shikarpur and you have nothing better to do in life than write pages after pages of worthless comments. Sorry to say, but its more than a regular person can take.
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Dear Hussain Sahab,
My hometown is Jacobabad not Shikarpur and sorry my Father is not a Wadera [Fedual]. If you have objection on my comment than you can reply me and or lodge protest with Mr Teeth Maestro to ban me from this forum.
By the way I am a Retired Police Officer and nowadays sell Samosa, Pakora and Paan outside Prince Cinema Karachi.
Regards
@Samad,
“But unlike what people think it will not be because of Zardari’s corruption or Gilani’s incompetence or Salman Taseer’s whiskies. We have survived them in the past, and so we’ll do again. However any country that has fallen to the Taliban has never recovered. The Taliban are here to stay and unless we stand up against them in every possible way Pakistan will be lost – for good! It will be the silence of the lambs which destroys us. You will be responsible if Pakistan fails.”
do you mean we will learn to live with it? because as far as I know, Salman Taseer didn't quit his whiskies, I don't know about Zardair's corruption yet, as this would be public after he is gone
However any country that has fallen to the Taliban has never recovered.
Sorry, but what were you smoking? which country has fallen to Taliban? and not recovered? is there a big list? and even Afghanistan didn't fall to Taliban.
.....Pakistan fails
What happened in 1971? Wasn't that a failure? and also were Mullahz responsible for 1971?
No sir, if you have the courage to look for the truth and give up arrogance then look at who were responsible for the break up. It was the BEY-DEEN, Kaley Angrez who sold the soul of Pakistan, and stupid innocent Muslims were fighting to keep Pakistan as one state. You know what happened to those stupid innocent Muslims, who didn't want Pakistan to break? They are still paying the price. They are now living in refugee camps. This is how we have paid them back for their loyality to Pakistan.
Do you have the courage to flow against the stream? or are you just another dead fish which swims with the stream?
Amir Mughal,
Please don't make teeth maestro's blog as your scratch pad. It would be a blessing on the people of Pakistan if you get a job or in other words get a life.
You write books instead of comments. What do you do for living? if you are posting such long comments.
I bet your dad was "wadera" from Shikarpur and you have nothing better to do in life than write pages after pages of worthless comments. Sorry to say, but its more than a regular person can take.
Aamir Mughal, Sir, btw do have a blog on seculars/marxists , and Takfir wal hijrah ? if you don’t, could you right one ![Reflection]
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Dear Sir,
If you would have paid attention on my blog then you wouldn't have declared me a Takfiri because I have compiled and added material on Takfiri Fitnah [those who issue unabashed Apostasy Decree against Fellow Muslims]
Here are links:
http://chagataikhan.blogspot.com/2008/11/heresy-ap...
The Takfiris make unlicensed Takfeer of Governments and scholars and call the common-folk to bloody revolution as a way to remove such governments and establish Islaamic Law.
“The judgement of apostasy and expelling someone from the religion is only appropriate for the people of knowledge who are firmly grounded in knowledge, and they are the judges in the various Sharee’ah law courts, and those who are able of giving legal verdicts. And this is just like the other matters, and it is not the right of every person, or from the right of those who are learning, or those who ascribe themselves to knowledge, but who have deficiency in understanding. It is not appropriate for them to make judgements of apostasy (upon others). Since, mischief will arise from this, and sometimes a Muslim might be judged as an apostate but he is not actually so. And the takfir of a Muslim who has not committed one of the nullifications of Islaam contains great danger. Whoever says to his brother “O Kaafir” or “O Faasiq”, and he is not like that, then the words will fall back upon the one who said them. Hence, the ones who actually judge with apostasy are the legislative judges and those who are able and fit for giving legal verdicts. And as for those who enforce the judgements they are the leaders of the Muslims (wullaat al-amr). As for whatever is other than this, then it is mere confusion.”
“Meting out the punishments is only appropriate for the leader of the Muslims and it is not for every person to establish the punishment, since confusion, and corruption necessarily follows from this, and also the cutting off of the society, tribulations and provocations occur. Establishing the punishments is appropriate (i.e. befits only) to the Muslim leader. The Prophet (sallallaahu alaihi wasallam) said, “Pardon each other for the punishments that are between you, but when the execution of the punishment reaches the [authority of the] Sultaan, then Allaah curses both the one who seeks intercession and the one who grants the intercession [i.e. to revoke the punishment]”. And from the responsibilities of the Sultaan in Islaam, and from those matters that befit him is the establishment of the punishments after they have been established legislatively, via the Sharee’ah law courts, upon the one who fell into the crime for which the legislator has designated a specific punishment, such as for stealing. So what has been said is that establishing the punishments (i.e. meting them out) is from the rights of the Sultaan, and when the Muslims do not have a Sultaan amongst them, then they should just suffice with commanding the good and forbidding the evil, and calling to Allaah, the Might and Majestic, with wisdom, good admonition and arguing with that which is best. And it is not permissible for individuals (in the society) to establish the hudood, since that, as we have mentioned, will bring about chaos, and also provocations, and tribulations will arise, and this contains greater corruption than it contains rectification. And from amongst the Sharee’ah principles that are submitted to is, “Repelling the harmful things takes precedence over bringing about the beneficial things”.
@reflection!i got some interesting link.i found that @Amir Mughal which claims that poetry is haram and gives the loads of the refrences from Quran and Hdadith has a god taste for music and movies.check this out
http://www.blogger.com/profile/1712319519082241808...
Comment by dr.jawwadkhan on April 21, 2009 @ 7:53 pm
it would be a much better if you call it: “the silence of a ham”…..lolzzzzz:
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Dear Jawwad Khan,
I am amazed that it took you so long to quote my profile. Yes, I declare that I like Movies, Music and other goodies which you Islamist yearn to enjoy but couldn't due to frigidity. I know very well that these are the vices which are disliked in Islam and I am indulged in these at my own risk and I am ready to be punished in the life hereafter. But I also know one thing which you are forgetting that despite all these vices are not Polytheism [Shirk], and Allah's Grace has saved me from Shirk [Polytheism] and Innovation [Bida'at].
I am more than hopeful that Allah will not only forgive me Insha Allah but also bless me with Paradise and that too Firdous despite my indulgence in the above mentioned vices. Allah says:
Lo! Allah forgiveth not that a partner should be ascribed unto Him. He forgiveth (all) save that to whom He will. Whoso ascribeth partners to Allah, he hath indeed invented a tremendous sin. [AN-NISA (WOMEN) Chapter 4 - Verse 48]
And (remember) when Luqman said unto his son, when he was exhorting him: O my dear son! Ascribe no partners unto Allah. Lo! to ascribe partners (unto Him) is a tremendous wrong [LUQMAN (LUQMAN) Chapter 31 - Verse 13]
On the authority of Anas (may Allah be pleased with him), who said: I heard the Messenger of Allah (PBUH) say: Allah the Almighty said:
O son of Adam, so long as you call upon Me and ask of Me, I shall forgive you for what you have done, and I shall not mind. O son of Adam, were your sins to reach the clouds of the sky and were you then to ask forgiveness of Me, I would forgive you. O son of Adam, were you to come to Me with sins nearly as great as the earth and were you then to face Me, ascribing no partner to Me, I would bring you forgiveness nearly as great at it. [Tirmidhi and Musnad Ahmed Bin Hanbal]
On the authority of Abu Hurayrah (may Allah be pleased with him) that the Prophet (PBUH), from among the things he reports from his Lord (mighty and sublime be He), is that he said:
A servant [of Allah's] committed a sin and said: O Allah, forgive me my sin. And He (glorified and exalted be He) said: My servant has committed a sin and has known that he has a Lord who forgives sins and punishes for them. Then he sinned again and said: O Lord, forgive me my sin. And He (glorified and exalted be He) said: My servant has committed a sin and has known that he has a Lord who forgives sins and punishes for them. Then he sinned again and said: O Lord, forgive me my sin. And He (glorified and exalted be He) said: My servant has committed a sin and has known that he has a Lord who forgives sins and punishes for sins. Do what you wish, for I have forgiven you. [Muslim and Bukhari]
Music and Movies are nothing if you would compare it with Polytheism [Shirk]
On the authority of Abu Hurayrah (may Allah be pleased with him), who said that the Messenger of Allah (PBUH) said: Allah (glorified and exalted be He) said:
I am so self-sufficient that I am in no need of having an associate. Thus he who does an action for someone else's sake as well as Mine will have that action renounced by Me to him whom he associated with Me. [Muslim and Ibn Majah].
On the authority of Abu Hurayrah (may Allah be pleased with him), who said that the Messenger of Allah (PBUH) said: Allah Almighty has said:
The son of Adam denied Me and he had no right to do so. And he reviled Me and he had no right to do so. As for his denying Me, it is his saying: He will not remake me as He made me at first (1) - and the initial creation [of him] is no easier for Me than remaking him. As for his reviling Me, it is his saying: Allah has taken to Himself a son, while I am the One, the Everlasting Refuge. I begot not nor was I begotten, and there is none comparable to Me.
(1) i.e., bring me back to life after death.
[Bukhari and Nasa'i)
Dear Jawwad Sahab,
Do you know as to why I will be forgiven by Allah and will be given Paradise in the life hereafter "Insha Allah" because despite enjoying Music and Movies in this World, I ALSO HAVE FIRM BELIEF ON THIS HADITH:
On the authority of Abu Hurayrah (may Allah be pleased with him), who said that the Messenger of Allah (PBUH) said:
When Allah decreed the Creation He pledged Himself by writing in His book which is laid down with Him: My mercy prevails over my wrath. [Muslim, Bukhari,Nasa'i and Ibn Majah).
Dear Jawwad Sahab and Mr Reflection,
Please go through the Hadith before declaring anyone Kaafir on the basis of some bad deeds:
On the authority of Jundub (may Allah be pleased with him), who said that the Messenger of Allah (PBUH) related:
A man said: By Allah, Allah will not forgive So-and-so. At this Allah the Almighty said: Who is he who swears by Me that I will not forgive So-and-so? Verily I have forgiven So-and-so and have nullified your [own good] deeds (1) (or as he said [it]). (1) A similar Hadith, which is given by Abu Dawud, indicates that the person referred to was a goldly man whose previous good deeds were brought to nought through presuming to declare that Allah would not forgive someone's bad deeds. [Muslim]
References of Hadith are from the Compilation of Imam Nuwi in RIAZ - UL -SALIHEEN Volume 1 and 2 and Al-Lulu Wal-Marjan Vols 1&2 by Fuwad Abdul Baqi
Dear Jawwad Sahab and Mr Reflection,
Dont worry about my salvation, you both should worry about your own Salvation. I pray the May Allah bless you and both of your families all the happiness and prosperity in here and in the life hereafter.
You should worry about my sins because you wont be asked any question by Allah about me on Judgement Day:
That no laden one shall bear another's load, And that man hath only that for which he maketh effort, And that his effort will be seen. And afterward he will be repaid for it with fullest payment; [Quran AN-NAJM (THE STAR) Chapter 53: Verse 38 to 41]
Say: Shall I seek another than Allah for Lord, when He is Lord of all things? Each soul earneth only on its own account, nor doth any laden bear another's load. Then unto your Lord is your return and He will tell you that wherein ye differed. [Quran AL-ANAAM (CATTLE, LIVESTOCK) Chapter 6: Verse 164]
Regarding Music:
Do you include Qawwali [Spiritual Chants] in Music or not? If not then why? If Qawwali is Halal [Lawful] then why Music is Haram [Unlawful]
Listening to Music doesn't make you Kafir [Infidel] and it is a vice which can be forgiven by Allah but not Shirk [Polytheism] and I thank Allah for that I am not indulged in Polytheism [that is too by the Grace of Allah]
I listen to Music without taking the cover of Sufism and I do it at my own expense and responsibility knowing the consequences in the life hereafter. By the way who will snatch this right from me of quoting Quran and Hadith and that too because of my indulgence in minor vice like Music. I wonder how would you justify the Sufi Music Festivals [in the name of Qawwalis and Qalandar Dances] held at different Shrines of so-called Saints of Allah, scattered all over India, Pakistan, Turkey and Iraq.
it would be a much better if you call it:
"the silence of a ham".....lolzzzzz
@reflection!@Amir
Mughal which claims that poetry is haram and gives the loads of the refrences from Quran and Hdadith has a god taste for music and movies.check this out
The biggest threat to Pakistan;s stability after corruption is fraud. I hear serial convicted fraudter Saifee Durbar who originates from Kornagi in Karachi, the shanty town of the city is looking for a safe haven in our country. On the run fraudster Saifee Durbar was last seen being chased down Fulham Road London by some private detectives instructed by victims of Saifee Durbar 's frauds. Saifee Durbar has already been convicted in or is wanted in most European Countries and the USA where he is likely to get a prison sentence of 180 years if ever caught there or extradited. Pakistan's Federal Investigation Auhtority and ISI Agency have him on their radars I am told. Let's nail this bastard Saifee Durbar once and for all.
@Aamir Mughal on April 21, 2009 @ 1:03 am
1 - Women particularly Lady Doctors/Nurses of Shaukat Khanum Hospital should immediately be sent back to their home
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The height of frustration, even then these women won't see you :)
Taliban are here!
Who will stop them is your main question if I am not wrong. Following is the last paragraph of your essay;
"But unlike what people think it will not be because of Zardari’s corruption or Gilani’s incompetence or Salman Taseer’s whiskies. We have survived them in the past, and so we’ll do again. However any country that has fallen to the Taliban has never recovered. The Taliban are here to stay and unless we stand up against them in every possible way Pakistan will be lost – for good! It will be the silence of the lambs which destroys us. You will be responsible if Pakistan fails."
Instead of reaching on a conclusion based on rational analysis you are also hitting the nail emotionally.
Provide justice & security to the masses, these masses will themselve defend any aggression to the country. You won't need Army & drones anymore.
And if Govt is not willing to provide justice & security to masses then no one can save us from taliban. Its not rocket science.
Its all about respect, respect your masses & then see how these masses will protect you even from the gps-enabled missile carried by drones.
For last 62 years you are cheating the masses, stop it to get protection from taliban(your nightmare).
Maireee maaaooonnnnn, maireee behnoooooonnnnn aur maireeeeyyy piareyyy piaareyy sathiooonnnnn aur mairey chaman, Summad Kharam.
Saheee bolaaa , bilkul barobar bola, tooo
Sala tooo aik kaam kar, Karachi aaja, teray jaison kai sath baree jamegee apnee. Saman chalana ataa hai yaa woh bhee sikhana paregaa? Jabb tak woh karachi aingey, cell phone cheen cheen kar guzara karnaa paregaa. Tayyar hai to pahlee fursat main pohanch.
The guy who thinks Sufi Muhammad is an American agent [Danial Burki]
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Dear Burki Sahab,
My God! Burki Sahab.
You shouldn't have repeated this Blasphemic Comment like this on a True Momin like Mawlana Sufi Mohammad [TNSM] and his Pious Companions because they are defending "Hudood Allah" Boundaries of Allah. Repent before its too late and rampant Angels of hell under the Command of Chief Protector Angel of Hell [his name is Malik "Jahannum Ka Daroogha"] may approach you swiftly and spank you to pieces.
TNSM COMMAND
1 - Women particularly Lady Doctors/Nurses of Shaukat Khanum Hospital should immediately be sent back to their home.
2 - All those Female Annaouncers of GEOTV/ARYONE particularly hot chick Faeza Dawood who interviewed Lal Mosque Brigade should be flogged for indecency and rest of the announcers should be sent back to houses, GEO TV should appoint Ansar Abbasi as Cheif Qazi of TV News Channels to administer Nikah Ceremony of all Un-married Female TV Announcers with Unmarried Journalists working in TV Channels and Newspaper. That will solve the problem of marriage, and those who are already married in these TV Channels should be allowed to take those Unmarried TV Announcers as extra wives because Islam 4 marriages to ease down the libido.
3 - All those TV Journalists who are clean shaved should have beards e.g. Talat Hussain, Hamid Mir, Iftikhar Ahmed, Kashif Abbasi, Ahmed Quraishi, Rauf Klasra, Javed Chaudhry extra and if anyone refuse then Ansar Abbasi should hold a whip and flog these clean shaved perverts.
4 - Milad, Shaam-e-Ghariban, Noha, and Salam-e-Aakhir - Must be banned on Islamic TV Channels like GEO TV since Ansar Abbasi has suddenly developed a Knack for Reciting Surah Nur for flogging therefore every Quranic Verse must be implemented in letter and spirit and Ansar should take start from GEO TV. Marketing Section and Advertisement Section should be monitored by Ansar Abbasi due to Suran-e-Nur Recitation.
Aamir Mughal,@reflection
\"I shall no more waste my time....\" You are 100% right this time because you cannot walk with the crutches of lame allegations.
Hats Off to you Amir.
What a laugh! The guy who thinks Sufi Muhammad is an American agent is telling me to read up on my contemporary history. Haha! Reflection, I only know you from your posts here, but I'm very confident that I'm far more educated about history and politics than you. Spare the advice. Haha
I shall no more waste my time on you !! [Reflection]
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Dear Reflection,
Sir, I would rather insist that please wast more time on me and my blog and point out my mistakes.
Regards
naeem Siddiqui never left Jamaat Islami, its a flagrant LIE, and KIZB, were you told by Sufi Mohammed made in USA/India ? [Reflection]
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Read the news clipping above about Naeem Siddiqui leaving JI.
@ naeem Siddiqui never left Jamaat Islami,
its a flagrant LIE, and KIZB, were you told by
Sufi Mohammed made in USA/India ?
Aamir Mughal,
do i need to go thru all your bloggistan, after how
notoriously you tried to distort and falsified
example of
Maudoodi's reference, on Kashmir's Jihad ?
are they all not rubbish and calculated distortion ?
come on, you guys are finished.
I shall no more waste my time on you !!
and what Allah SWT and Iqbal say about 20 millions of goolag victims killed by secular Stalin Khalifah of Lenin and Karl Marx ?? have you forgotten already dear ?
and what about Genocide of Afghanistan by communist and today by Yankee Pigs their masters of Naeem Siddiqui
Moskovitsi !![Reflection]
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On Naeem Siddiqui who left Jamat-e-Islami:
The never ending split in MMA By Alya Alvi
http://pakistantimes.net/2005/07/03/oped3.htm
THE Muttahida Majlis-e-Amal is heading towards further break-up as internal differences among the already reduced “six-party alliance” have posed major threat to its existence. Despite truce on NSC issue between Qazi Hussain Ahmed and Maulana Fazlur Rehman, the ideological gulf between the two is fast widening.
As frequent splits have already become a serious issue due to sole decisions taken by the two mainstream parties; especially Qazi-Baloch dominated Jamaat-e-Islami, more reasons are cropping up to bring the two heads at loggerheads. Reports suggest that Qazi Hussain Ahmed and Fazlur Rehman have entered into yet another conflict since Maulana Sherani accepted chairmanship of National Assembly’s Standing Committee.
“Qazi has lodged a strong protest with Fazlur Rehman over Muhammad Khan Sherani’s acceptance of the office of chairman National Assembly’s Standing Committee of Ports and Shipping”. It is said that Qazi, seeking explanation, also talked to Sherani and expressed great sense of resentment over his becoming chairman of the Standing Committee without taking him, being head of the alliance or the MMA parties, into confidence. “Sherani told Qazi that he obtained permission from Fazlur Rehman before accepting the office whereas Fazl, in his telephonic conversation, denied to have permitted him for the same.”
Qazi reminded Fazl and Sherani about the MMA and other opposition parties’ decision that they will not accept any office in the Standing Committees till the Government ensures allocation of the offices under the proportionate system. “Qazi Sahib takes the matter as a sheer violation of the party discipline.” However no disciplinary action is expected to be taken against Maulana Sherani following his position particularly in Balochistan where he is heading the MMA as well as JUI-F besides he has complete backing of Fazlur Rehman.
Maulana Sherani is the second from MMA who became chairman of a Standing Committee as JUI-S Chief Maulana Samiul Haq’s son, Maulana Hamidul Haq Haqqani is already holding such position. Qazi’s JI and Fazl’s JUI, the two major components of MMA, are already facing severe differences over the issue of participation of Chief Minister Akram Durrani in NSC and a final decision is still pending.
The JUI-F wants to ensure Durrani’s participation in NSC meetings whereas the JI has been left alone among the Majlis parties that are opposing such move since the council was established through an act of Parliament.
The MMA parties met on June 23 here in Islamabad to take up different issues including the NSC and maybe Sherani’s acceptance of chairmanship of the Standing Committee besides forming its general council. Making of MMA (Muttahida Majlis-e-Amal) is really a great thing. But the initially formed six-party alliance has reduced to a two-party ‘marriage of convenience’. With the death of Allama Shah Ahmed Noorani MMA witnessed the demise of JUP’s active affiliation.
Allama Sajid Naqvi virtually declared to quit the alliance. Maulana Sajid Mir has withdrawn his party’s participation. JUI-F and JUI-S are at daggers drawn. JUI-F itself has further developed differences from within. Hafiz Hussain Ahmed has ‘rebelled’ probably succumbing to JI tactics. Besides, the JUI-F in Balochistan functionally withdrew its support to JUI-F Central in joining the Qazi-led movement against President’s uniform.
Hafiz Hussain virtually ditched Maulana Fazl’s reconciliatory approach to have a peaceful political process in the country. It was the result of those splits with the MMA that the agitation, demonstrations, caravans and long marches ended in a futile exercise, as three parties JUI-S, MJAH and JUP-N were reluctant to join solo flight of JI and JUI-F. The recent resignation of MMA Punjab Secretary General Syed Mahfooz Mashhadi also indicated the rifts within. Mashhadi alleged that MMA president and JI Amir Qazi Hussain Ahmed and MMA Secretary General and JUI-F chief Maulana Fazlur Rehman have created like-minded people in smaller parties of the alliance to easily impose their decisions.
“JI leaders hold their meetings on behalf of MMA and try to impose their decisions on the other parties. The provincial leadership of MMA was totally unaware about the decisions being taken in Central Shoora meetings of MMA” he said, adding “JI leader Hafiz Idrees who is also the provincial president of MMA did not take the provincial leadership of the alliance into confidence about the decisions of the supreme council of MMA.” He disclosed that after two years Qazi Hussain Ahmed has now admitted that MMA’s decision about the support of 17th constitutional amendment was wrong.
Senator Maulana Samiul Haq of JUI-S parted ways with MMA due to latter’s role in helping the ruling Pakistan Muslim League in passing controversial 17th Amendment while Markazi Jamiat Ahle-Hadith chief Senator Professor Sajid Mir was also annoyed at MMA president Qazi Hussain Ahmed and Secretary General Maulana Fazlurrehman for passage of amendment. Both the leaders have been ignoring the supreme council meetings of the MMA for a long time due to same reason. A central leader of JUP-N disclosed that small parties of religious alliance had reservation on the decision being taken by the central leadership of MMA.
However he said the central leadership was not bound to inform the provincial leadership about their decisions. According to sources Mashhadi resigned from the post of provincial secretary general due to cold attitude showed by the JI Punjab. Hafiz Idrees Ahmed of JI was appointed as president MMA Punjab without taking into confidence other smaller parties who could not activate provincial chapter so far.
It is said that JUP-N central secretary general Gen. K M Azhar has constantly been interfering in the matters of JUP-N’s provincial chapter and creating a lobby in the party for not giving an opportunity to Maulana Shah Ahmed Noorani’s son Maulana Anas Noorani to become president of the party. Anas Noorani was reportedly not willing also because of the MMA leaders’ attitude towards his father.
Anecdote goes that in King Mamoon-ur-Rashid’s era two Hadith tellers once attended a Juma sermon at a mosque near Baghdad where the khateeb was narrating a Hadith, attributed to the Prophet [PBUH], through their source to which both the ravians strongly objected and vehemently denied having said that. “Get off, you are not the only two with those particular names…there are a hundred Zaids and Bakrs”, was the reply. The Imam got them shunted out of the mosque. The trend of “barha letay hein zeb-e-dastaan kay liey” goes on non-stop. The Ulema today are being wrongly dubbed as fundamentalists because in the fundamentals of al-Din there is nowhere to have the facts twisted, or utilize the opportunity to one’s own political ends. This is in sheer violation of “Why ye not do what ye do say?”
The bazaar of politics is infested with masquerading and mimicry, somersaults and gimmicks, telling lies and saving skins. Machiavellian approach continues to prevail upon, come what may. The ulema who have thronged this bazaar are out to ‘Islamise’ the trade of politics to their self-aggrandizement and addiction of ‘leading’ the nation with the interpretations of their deeds on their own.
It is pardonable that some of them opposed the making of Pakistan, pleading that practising Islam needs no ‘independent’ State. But it is not pardonable to continue resisting the fundamental principles of Islam. Farooq Haider Maududi, Maulana Amin Ahsan Islahi, Dr Asrar Ahmed and the latest desertion in JI Naeem Siddqui speak volumes while exposing the Jamaat leadership for its somersaults. Maulana Abul Ala’a Maududi, they say, had asked for not taking part in politics, but the vested interests allured it to low to resort to making headways in the gimmicks, no matter what the means could have been adopted. Maulana Fazlur Rehman has gone down with the legacy. He justified the “marriages of convenience” with a number of alliances, friends and foes, even PPP.
Though cracks have split the Mufti-legacy today, the “marriage of convenience” goes on as a political norm. When they are asked they say in the religion it is forbidden but politics is something different. The contract of petroleum oil was a convenience and the alliance with the PPP was a marriage.●
© 2005 Alya Alvi
Sir, why follow Sharia all the time, should do better and efficient like Iranians. !! what do you think ? [Reflection]
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Dear Reflection,
Then why you were condmening me for bein Secular? If we take your above comment seriously. Do you want to know the comment of Deobandi, Barelvi and Saudi Ulema-e-Kiram about Iran???
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well, death by hanging, of Saddam Hussain, is permitted in US Sharia and 1.2 millions of Iraqis not to be hanged but assassinated by bombs and gas, just like 900.000 Afghanis Genocided by your Americans allies. [Reflection]
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Please read about Saddam on my blog, I have already discussed him on my blog.
@ Aamir Mughal,
well, according to Baithullah mehsoud, fazlullah,
sufi Mohammed, and & Co. beheading is permitted !
and is done by Takfir-wal Hijrah and Tehriki
made in USA/India, unless you read Quran in your
own code.
Sir, why follow Sharia all the time,
should do better and efficient like Iranians. !!
what do you think ?
well, death by hanging, of Saddam Hussain, is
permitted in US Sharia and 1.2 millions of Iraqis
not to be hanged but assassinated by bombs and gas,
just like 900.000 Afghanis Genocided by your
Americans allies.
Dear Sir,
My replies are as under:
Aamir Mughal,
Reflection:Sir, btw do have a blog on seculars/marxists , and Takfir wal hijrah ? if you don’t, could you right one !
AM: Sir, check my posts on Takfiris [click the label]
Reflection:who asked you about Hindu Fundamentalism and RSS ?
AM:You have condemned me in one of your posts as Indian Agent, please check my posts on Gujarat Riots, About Poor Muslims in India, RSS, Hindutva, and Minorities Abuse in India.
Reflection: I have seen your blogs they are just boring to death provided directly by State Deprtment USA, the only one
missing on your blog is Madelein Albright !! ha ha ha
AM: Read my posts on Saddam Hussein and do read my post on Madelein Albright.
you must be running a Sabbahi bloggistan !!
AM: Do read my more than 40 posts on Khomeini
Dear Sir,
Condemning me is your basic right but do condemn me after reading on the subjects which you said I never touched.
@ typo. could you write one,
I know your righteousness !Sir.
Aamir Mughal,
Sir, btw do have a blog on seculars/marxists , and
Takfir wal hijrah ? if you don't, could you right one !
who asked you about Hindu Fundamentalism and RSS ?
I have seen your blogs they are just boring to death
provided directly by State Deprtment USA, the only one
missing on your blog is Madelein Albright !! ha ha ha
you must be running a Sabbahi bloggistan !!
the solution is very simple, either we eliminate all anti-Pakistan, and anti-Islam, secular or marxist, all in one go, 20.000 to 40.000 judged and hanging on the lamp poste, [Reflection]
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Please quote Quran and Hadith references for punishment by hanging and plaese quote as to where had this happened in Islam.
@ Danial Burki,
your surprise is revealing your ignorance
of contemporary history, go back to school.
or change your khalifat !!!
@ I think Lenin’s peace prize be given to Aamir Mughal and his courtiers.[Reflection]
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Dear Sir,
Do read my blog on Hindu Fundamentalism and RSS.
@ Ali Abbas,
and what Allah SWT and Iqbal say about
20 millions of goolag victims killed by secular
Stalin Khalifah of Lenin and Karl Marx ??
have you forgotten already dear ?
and what about
Genocide of Afghanistan by communist and today by
Yankee Pigs their masters of Naeem Siddiqui
Moskovitsi !!
@ Lenin's peace prize be given to
Aamir Mughal and his birbals
@ I think Lenin's peace prize be given to
Aamir Mughal and his courtiers.
@ Ali Abbas,
and what Allah SWT and Iqbal say about
20 millions of goolag victims killed by secular
Stalin Khalifah of Lenin and Karl Marx ??
have you forgotten already dear ?
and what about
Genocide of Afghanistan by communist and today by
Yankee Pigs their masters of Naeem Siddiqui
Moskovitsi !!
Its nice to know that you were steering the lawyers movement, media & people were of the view that Aitzaz, Munir Malik, Kurd, Hamid Khan & other lawyers were steering the movement.[Muhammad Asif]
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Dear Asif Sahab,
No Sir, for this credit goes to Mr Awab and Mr Samad Khurram. I was just a bystander.
Is Imran Khan so effective in Pakistan & Afghanistan as well? [Muhammad Asif]
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Dear Asif Sahab,
Imran Khan would have been much better for Pakistan had he been not in Politics and would have doing his welfare work e.g. Shaukat Khanum Hospital [a great service to the mankind]. He should have waited and people would have made him the leader of Pakistan even without his permisssion. We lost a good man to the dirty machination of Jamat-e-Islami because JI used Imran Khan's popularity to serve JI's ulterior motive e.g. making him stand against MQM which JI couldn't do morally.
@talkhaba:
Taliban never discussed the issues you are saying; health, utility bills, education Kabul university was closed by Taliban during their reign. Read the history and current: Taliban\'s Islam just revolves around banning illegal S_e-x, beared, guns and tabooing women, other sects in islam or people of other race since Pashtoon is the only race that will be permitted to enter into jannat.
I wish I could send you back to the Taliban Regime in Afghanistan, do you wish to live there.....complaining of utility bills :S there would be no \"utilities\" when they will get reign.....man think with the brain not with the nut that sits in your skull!!!!
http://thenews.jang.com.pk/daily_detail.asp?id=174...
Mr. Samad, this article will give you an insight to analyze the uprising of taliban & a support to them from the lower classes.
If have time go thru it. Thanks
Military operation, bullet proof cars & villas are a part of problem not solution.
One Education system, One socio-economic system & One Judicial system for all the Pakistanis is the only solution.
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