Ahmedis expelled from Medical College

ops.u r not getting my pint.I just want to say,if people linked with IJT do this,i realy condemn this,but some times the thing is in spotlite is not the reality.So all here are baeting about the bushes are now starting to put it in a religious circle.The reason of all this is some thing else.

exactly.plz no need to convert this issue in to a religious one

just want to correct a mistake from orevious message:

our beloved prophet* (saw)

reading all these words of hatred just give me head ache....it wud b better for those writing hateful things to watch what's happening to islam in the world and judge by themselves who is on the true path....when watching the news in pakistan i can c that islam has got a new name that is 'terrorism'.

so stop being judgemental and save our ISLAM.

from,

A LOVER OF OUR BELOVED PROPHETS (SAW) AND ALL OTHER PROPHETS

note: respect Allah's creatures, Allah will send u to heaven

spread peace and the words of love and be tolerant. if you disagree then ignore. LIVE AND LET LIVE

why people are not left alone with their religious believes and let every one live in peace and work for country's future.

I am a born Ahmadi, practiced Islam since childhood, lived in Saudi for 20 years, been to Makkah and Madina countless times.

Many things i am not sure of but one thing that i am sure is that i will die as a sciencetologist.

Folks, lets go to work,

I think IJT are bastards and they should be banned in pakistan thier policies does not match the theory os islam neither the idology of Qauid -e-Azam.

I find this blind hatred of Ahmedis and their expulsion not only sad but HORRIBLE and unjustified. They were expelled just because of their faith ?? THIS IS A DISGRACE TO OUR TALL CLAIMS OF PAKISTAN "SUPPORTING" ITS MINORITIES.

We have the gall to accuse india of mistreating muslims .... just look at how we treat the Ahmedis.

jahalat beyshumar, aqal gaee bharrh mein.

Dear Manish,

Well we muslims with Emman do not care about worldly gains or losses and more so Isalm is not bound to countries or states.
Their is only one policy which is laid down or must say finalized 1400 yrs ago.
About legality it the Law and Principals laid down by Allah are the ones not You ME or any Tom Dick and Harry.
As far as Ahmedi's are concerned they mock and distort the basics of Islam to worst extent.

As your hindu I say if Sri Rajnesh say he is above Ram or Lakshman and also try to make changes in basic believes of hinduism.

Well I take oppurtunity to Offer You Islam and come to right path.Its not difficult my grand grand father reverted to Islam not for wealth or land Allah bless him and give him paradise.

I think all pakistani shud ooppose ban on ahmediya sect.....otherwise it clearly gives message that pakistans state policy is against hatred for some sects...yes if they r found doing illegal work..or terrorist activities..then its ok to ban .

I may b not rong. The history of Ahmedis are not good.
The have relations with Israel and in India they are acting as Muslims.

What so ever good or bad I don't Ahmedis from my Muslim and Pakistani eyes.

@ erratum,

my comment of 30th oct. @ 7.03 pm
is addressed to all Qadiani militants
NOT to Mr. Raja, I will address him in a seperate
comment very soon !, sorry for inconvinience Mr.Raja,
Rafay Kashmiri

Allah Naozo Billah!

thank god I am ahmadi not any else all the remarks are show the mental level of writers

Dear Disgusted,

question is how to treat minorities.
question i swhat they are doing?

they are distorting face of islam and abusing Allah and Mohammed.

u look to be bit liberal what happens if someone scraching ur face and abusing ur father.

Where as Taliban is concerned what u r seeing are mostly non muslims and big consipracy.

i advise u please correct ur Kabba and comment when u r aware of facts.

then u will rise above disgusted

its better to practice your own religion to the fullest and let others do the same. denying rights of minorities wont get us muslims anywhere.

i know all the terrorists operating within Pakistan(taliban etc) are muslims. killing people in the name of Jihad is also done by muslim terrorists. it wont hit me with surprise if muslims shall be banned from preaching their religion.

as far as preaching religion is concerned; i have seen a lot of "tablighee jamaats" in universities and colleges.

the way we muslims look down upon minorities really disgust me!!

regards,
a muslim

salam

swords can win territories, but not hearts; force can bend heads, but not minds.<< khalifatul masih the IV

you folks find some peace for yourself by giving peace to others!

much love from germany

QAIDIANE AND SHEEYA MURDABAD
AND THEY ALL ARE KAFIR

khatam e nabowat zinda bad
qaidiyano ke tarha sheeyo ko b adalat k zareye kafir qarar dea jai
ye log islam k naam pe ik dabba hey
qaydiane r sheya MURDA BAD

Good step eXcellent
Khatm-e-nubuwwat ZIndabad
Qadyaniyat Murdabad

well done Mr hafiz nauman
from ur blog and confirm that ur dont know what u r talking about and hardly 17 yrs.

Tommorow u will call zardari and nawaz as honest and pious muslims.
son dont comment on what u dont know. At least read all this blog and than say something, might be useful

salam i want to say on it that it is a very shameless incident .because all world knows that ahmadies are very kind persons and in pakistan it is only caused by MULLAS which called himself MUSLIM and every body knows about these MULLAS / MULVI,S these r terrorist and are involve in terrorisom so i want to say the INTER NATIONAL AMBASIDORS to force the GOVT OF PAK. to stop these incidents caused by MULLAS to AHMADIES .THAK YOU
NAUMAN

I do not believe Qadyanis or Ahmedi as a Muslims community, they are
Hippocrates and they are calling their selves as a Muslim. I do not agree with Adan Siddiqui, as what he said about kicking them just because they were talking about their belief with others is not good at all. Hippocrates is Not repeat Not allow to live among us. They created and tried to disrupted and almost having the aim to destroy the reality of Islam as such they ponders other Muslim is not real Muslim compares to Qadyanis or Ahmedi. First, they refused to accept our Mohammad (SAW) is the last messenger of Allah Almighty. They believe that their Imam can be the last messenger of the Allah almighty. They must get the rid of our entire Muslim world unless, otherwise they must have to return back to the Mohammad (SAW) constitution and be follower of Mohammad(SAW) pattern and to accept Mohammad (SAW) is the last messenger of the Allah Almighty.

Thanks Mr Atif

I could not understand what Mr Rizwan was talking about.

They so strongly deny that we are khilafat etc. and Ghulam qadi was not ...i dont know wat cuz they are not sure them selves.

Well They often say that Ghulam was not the last prophet and Hazrat Mohammed pbuh was Khatim un Nabian to decieve naive muslims.

They are liars ... In their Salna Jalsa in UK last month they were chanting slogans HAZRAT GHULAM ETC KHATIM U NABEEN ISTAGHFIR ULAH.- showing their true believe.

By doing this clear that they are kafirs and not muslims.
it is same as christians say that they follow Jesus christ but actually they are following teachings of St Paul. This another topic.

if u dont believe i have recordings from thier mta

Dear friends,

I am based in London and well aware how qadyani work / behave in their lives. In my borough, we have significant number of ahmadies and we do deal with regularly.

We have received following information from our sources which also include some Ahamdi friends as well. Let me share with you:

They were nor expelled on the basis of Ahmadies. They converted few muslim girls to their religion.These girls denied to go their home upon their new religion. They were sent to live with Ahmadies families in Faisalabad or Rabwah.

All these expelled students declared themselves as muslims i.e. not Ahmadies on their admission forms.

In medical college, no one is allowed to preach religion, but these students were in breach of clauses:

a- unlawfully signed declarion that they were muslims.
b- preaching their reeligion

College authorities did not expell those Ahmadi students who declared themselves Ahmadis/Qadyani on their admission forms.

I think no one sitting in Pakistan knows how this community work and try to convert as many people in to their sect. I have live examples here in London, Ahmadi girls marry to Sunni/Shia boy only to influence into Muslim community.

We have a joke back in 10 years , You marry to Ahmadi girl , Ahmadi Jamat will give £50 Marks & Spencer voucher for celebrate.

When a person has no answer of other sects / religion then defiantly they do this as these people do. What a great Answer that “IF you talk wrongly about ISLAM and we have no answer then will turn our face like the pigeon do while the cat jumps over him.” I think they do vary right because when you are unable to answer to a question then why we do not remove that page from the book
{Shame Muslims Shame }
{Shame Jamati Shame}
Shame Shame Shame Muslim Shame, That is your todays worth.

Allah O Akbar!

TO EVERYONE

When a man dies in grave two angels will come and ask about TAUHEED, and only Momin will answer it straight away i.e SHAHADA but one who has doubts or false has been defying his words or causing mischief will not be able to answer this simple question.

I have asked this very question about few weeks ago but no one has replied this was specially put forward to qadi's.

Allah Subhan O Tala has decided he has his ways.

Allah O Akbar!

I pray that Allah Guide us all

ASHAD O LA ILLAHA IL LA HO WA ASHAHD ANA MOHAMMEDEN ABUDU HU WA RASOOL O HOO.

WASEEM!

well silenced ahmedi has replied you well.

well as u say i am a bad muslim or a bad man.
but u r good ...........than what kind of people u preach.

why dont u answer my questions or its all PHUKA fire.

U challanged that bhutto was killed because he was against u .

Dear I am only fear Allah and no one else.

may I know what u say about tauheed.

There is no evidence that Bhutto or Zia visited Rabwah or did audit of Jamaati corruption and embezzelment in Charity chanda money.

Most of this corruption reached to its peak in the last fifteen years and after the death of Zia.

Jamaati funds were stolen in the name of interest free " Qarz e hasna " and invested in heavy industries like Fecto cement etc.

Small scale officers like Nazirs ,naib nazirs and senior murrabies , life time amirs also got crumbs and got gift monies and " qarze hasnas " to buy sky rocketing real estate around the world.

Huge Sholarships for favoured students, London and Europe tours , Trans Pakistan jamaati tours to far flung resorts and free boarding and lodging in Jamaati rest houses , extensive use of Air conditioners, extensive use of Air conditioned Vehicles for shikars and recreation, etc. etc...

House building interest free loans , ..etc. etc..

Bribery and gifts to bureaucrats of Pakistan , secret fundings to various waring mullahs and sects of muslims , secret funding to media people etc etc. are few of the examples.

This is just a tip of the ice berg.

Audit has to be done every year and it has to be made public,..but who will do audit ..?? will the thieves like Faisal Saleh Hayat or Pir Pagara will do audit of Europe loving Pirs of Pakistan..??

The Government of Pakistan had tried her best to involve the Ahmadiyya Muslim Jamaat into some case and hence defame Ahmadiyyat.

Zulfiqar Ali Butto and Zia ul Haq came to Rabwah (Ahmadiyya Headquartes in Pakistan) and went through all the audits of our Jamaati Chanda. They couldn’t find even a single paisa spent wrongly. They tried all means to put Ahmadis into some case but failed. They were left with no option but to blindly declare the Ahmadi Muslims to be non-Muslims. Allah became angry with them and both these leaders had a very tragic end. Such is the way Allah deals with the opponents of his holy people and clearly distinguishes the beliers from opponents. See Friday Sermons of our 4th Klalifa at: http://www.real-islam.org/audio/sermons.html

May Allah enable Pakistan to recognise the wrong they are doing by not letting the Ahmadis have their freedom of religious activities.

Raja, Ahmadis don’t answer you coz you tend to close your eyes and behave in an un Islamic way. In Islamic culture, a child is from a very early age taught not to use abusive or foul language. But its your habit not to restrain from that. When discussing on religion you need to be extra careful because what you actually aim at is impress the other of your beliefs and hence turn his heart towards your self. From all your posts you have not been showing such accommodating behaviour. You called me a Murtad and a disbeliever then how do you expect me to answer you. I don’t consider your way to be Islamic at all. So first lean Islamic morals then do Tableegh. Note: I am not mentioning what you said to others including a female in your posts above.

Our Jamaati News: Our present Khalifa innagurated the largest mosque in North America last Friday. Photo gallery: http://www.alislam.org/gallery/album527

PEACE

The Government of Pakistan had tried her best to involve the Ahmadiyya Muslim Jamaat into some case and hence defame Ahmadiyyat.

Zulfiqar Ali Butto and Zia ul Haq came to Rabwah (Ahmadiyya Headquartes in Pakistan) and went through all the audits of our Jamaati Chanda. They couldn’t find even a single paisa spent wrongly. They tried all means to put Ahmadis into some case but failed. They were left with no option but to blindly declare the Ahmadi Muslims to be non-Muslims. Allah became angry with them and both these leaders had a very tragic end. Such is the way Allah deals with the opponents of his holy people and clearly distinguishes the beliers from opponents. See Friday Sermons of our 4th Klalifa at: http://www.real-islam.org/audio/sermons.html

May Allah enable Pakistan to recognise the wrong they are doing by not letting the Ahmadis have their freedom of religious activities.

Raja, Ahmadis don’t answer you coz you tend to close your eyes and behave in an un Islamic way. In Islamic culture, a child is from a very early age taught not to use abusive or foul language. But its your habit not to restrain from that. When discussing on religion you need to be extra careful because what you actually aim at is impress the other of your beliefs and hence turn his heart towards your self. From all your posts you have not been showing such accommodating behaviour. You called me a Murtad and a disbeliever then how do you expect me to answer you. I don’t consider your way to be Islamic at all. So first lean Islamic morals then do Tableegh. Note: I am not mentioning what you said to others including a female in your posts above.

Our Jamaati News: Our present Khailfa innagurated the largest mosque in North America last Friday. Photo gallery: http://www.alislam.org/gallery/album527

PEACE

Waseem

why u guys always avoid answering real issue.

I asked about if sword jehad is wrong how u explain Gazwats?

Secondaly 73 sects of muslims have been establised for last 1000 yrs where are u.

And how come u are muslims when ur iman is false defying prophets.

khalifa is selected and ghulam qadi declared /proclaimed himself even muslims around world declined him- as he is- was murtid, so is his followers.

Silenced,

All efforts were made by Zulfiqar Ali Butto and Zia-ul-Haq to investigate the audits of the Jamaat-Ahmadiyya. But they couldnt find even a paisa spent wrongy. They were left with no option other than blindly declare Ahmadi Muslims to be non-Muslims. The fate of both these so leaders the world knows. And the fate of Pakistan you are all seeing....

Our Jamaat News:
Today our Khalifa innagurated the largest Mosque of North America. To see the progress of Jamaat-e-Ahmadiyya keep tuned on www.alislam.org and www.mta.tv

PEACE

If government of Pakistan do honest audit of Ahmadiyya group of Charities and make it public every year then half of Ahmadies will leave Nizaam e Jamaat Ahmadiyya in one day.

Asslamo Alaikum

a_muslim, I do appreaciate your belief in all forms of Jihad unlike Ignorant Mullas of nowadays who just belief in Jihad with the sword and killing and bloodshed.

Ahmadi Muslims all over the world have a unique feature - The institution of Khalifat. We are all united on one hand, unlike all other 72 sects which do not have a Khilafa.
This year we are celebrating the 100 years of Khilafat-e-Ahmadiyya.
To listen to the Centenary Khilafat speech by our Khailfa at Excel Centre in London:
http://www.alislam.org/topics/khilafat/KC20080527-...

We believe in the return of Hazrat Isa (as):
http://www.alislam.org/library/books/revelation/pa...

We believe in the finality of prophet hood:
http://www.alislam.org/books/truth/finality.html

For replies to all your allegations and misconceptions please visit: http://www.real-islam.org/ and www.alislam.org

PEACE

i believe in each n every form of Jihaad in the way of ALLAH(Subhan wa tallah)

"A Sincere Advice to Believers in Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani"

Naturally, we do not expect that you blindly accept our claims. Instead, we humbly request that you obtain an original copy of Mirza Ghulam Qadiani's books and verify our references for yourself. You will find them accurate and representative of the true beliefs of the Qadianism (Ahmadiyyat). Let us assure you that what you find appealing in Qadianism are the few teachings of Islam incorporated into that faith. Islam has always been a beautiful, complete, universal, and protected religion, in no need of a new prophet. We are certain that once you review all the proof earnestly, you will have no choice but to submit to Allah(SWT) and reject Qadianism. We certainly hope you are able to appreciate the truth.

Say: "O my Servants who have transgressed against their souls! Despair not of the Mercy of Allah, for Allah forgives all sins, for He is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
Turn you to our Lord and submit to Him, before the doom comes on you, after which you shall not be helped.
And follow the best that has been revealed to you from your Lord, before the Penalty comes on you - of a sudden while ye perceive not!-
Lest the soul should say: 'Ah! Woe is me!- In that I fell short of my duty towards Allah, and was but among those who mocked!'-
Or it should say: 'If only Allah had guided me, I should certainly have been among the dutiful!'-
Or it should say when it sees the doom: 'If only I had another chance, I should certainly be among the righteous!' "
(The Holy Quran, Az-Zumar, 39:53-58)

All Muslim scholars already have declared the followers of Mirza Ghulam Qadiani to be out of the fold of Islam. If you are a person who somehow believes in Qadianism (Ahmadiyyat), without having studied the writings of Mirza Ghulam Qadiani, then your faith in the Qadiani "faith" is also questioned by the founder of your movement:

"Anyone who has not read my books at least three times, his faith is in doubt."
(Seerat-ul-Mahdi, No. 407, Vol. 2, P. 78)

By blindly supporting the teachings of the Qadiani leadership, in any way and for any reason, you are indeed putting your soul at a great risk:

Leave alone those who take their religion to be mere play and amusement, and are deceived by the life of this world. But proclaim (to them) this (truth): that every soul delivers itself to ruin by its own acts: it will find for itself no protector or intercessor except Allah: if it offered every ransom, (or reparation), none will be accepted: such is (the end of) those who deliver themselves to ruin by their own acts: they will have for drink (only) boiling water, and for punishment, one most grievous: for they persisted in rejecting Allah.
(The Holy Quran, Al-Anaam, 6:70)

We often get messages from very disturbed "Ahmadis" (Qadianis) who swear they do not hold all the views we have presented in these pages. We sympathize with them and believe their claim: they have been tricked into supporting Qadianism (Ahmadiyyat). The fact remains that the Qadiani (Ahmadi) doctrine includes all beliefs we have represented in these pages. These doctrines are included in the very writings of the founder of the movement and his successors.

Ignorance of these beliefs or rejection of some of them does not make Mirza Ghulam Qadiani's movement and teachings any more acceptable. The fact remains that Mirza Ghulam and his associates did advance these beliefs and mandated them on his followers. Does trying to ignore or discount some of the writings amount to anything more than fooling oneself into following a man-made cult? Is it reasonable to keep a blind eye to all the evidence showing the true nature of Qadianism (Ahmadiyyat)?

Those who conceal the clear (Signs) We have sent down, and the Guidance, after We have made it clear for the people in the Book,-on them shall be Allah's curse, and the curse of those entitled to curse,-
Except those who repent and make amends and openly declare (the Truth): To them I turn; for I am Oft-returning, Most Merciful.
(The Holy Quran, Al-Baqara, 2:159-160)

Both the Holy Quran and Hazrat Muhammad(SAW) have instructed the Muslims to use their best judgment to arrive at the truth. We are certain that once you review all the evidence, you too become certain that Mirza Ghulam Qadiani and his followers are not following a divine revelation. When you do, we hope you remember these words of Allah(SWT) :

Allah accepts the repentance of those who do evil in ignorance and repent soon afterwards; to them will Allah turn in mercy: For Allah is full of knowledge and wisdom.
Of no effect is the repentance of those who continue to do evil, until death faces one of them, and he says, "Now have I repented indeed;" nor of those who die rejecting Faith: for them have We prepared a punishment most grievous.
(The Holy Quran, An-Nisa, 4:17-18)

Please bear witness that we are Muslims and we have relayed the true message of Allah(SWT) to you. We hope that you are not among the unfortunate few who have earned the wrath of Allah(SWT) and are incapable to see the truth; those who Allah(SWT) has condemned to the lowest level in hell; those who cannot see:

When it is said to them: "Come to what Allah hath revealed, and to the Messenger": Thou seest the Hypocrites avert their faces from thee in disgust.
How then, when they are seized by misfortune, because of the deeds which they hands have sent forth? Then they come to thee, swearing by Allah: "We meant no more than good-will and conciliation!"
Those men,-Allah knows what is in their hearts; so keep clear of them, but admonish them, and speak to them a word to reach their very souls.
(The Holy Quran, An-Nisa, 4:61-63)

I pray that Allah(SWT) will guide all the victims of the Qadiani (Ahmadi) misinformation campaign back to the path of Islam.

Raja,

First you asked a question and then you further went to declare me to be with the disbelievers and you did'nt stop there but rather declared me to be a murtad and a disbelier.

Sorry Raja, you are not my God to decide my faith. Nor is Pakistan or any state given the rite to decide my faith.

For your general information JEHAD is not to pick up sword and kill some one (like a terrorist). Its far more than what you can think of.... The highest Jehad, is Jehad with the help of the Quran. The sword cannot effect a change of heart, and, according to Islam, it is a sin to try and convert a people through fear or favor.

To learn about Jehad as practiced by Hazrat Muhammad (saww) and as believed by the Ahmadi Muslims read this link. http://www.alislam.org/jihad/ahmadisbelieve.html

PEACE

Waseem,

how u explain gazawats -

u r really with non believers who started ur group so that muslims donot rise against them.

by not doing jehad with sword u r defying acts of haz.Mohammed pbuh and sahaba ikram.

u guys are murtids and disblelievers

Asslamo Alaikum

a_muslim,

From your comment "sielenced u r realy doin JIHAAD in true sense…ALLAh bless you"

We can get atleast one thing that you finally believe that the true JIHAD nowadays is not with the SWORD as ignorant Mullans think but rather with the Kalam (the pen).

An improvement Mashallah !!!.

PEACE

sielenced u r realy doin JIHAAD in true sense...ALLAh bless you

Dear Farzana,

WHY dont you write something useful.
You always pick something from a comment and then keep beating the bush.

Reading comments from Qadis it seems that Your group is being led and sourced by JEWS

because PEACE is their slogan.

Can u tell me what happened to those 23 expelled students.

One thing if you do like Mushriks than you are amongst them.

I know Farzana Begum that Truth is always painful, and people always go through denial and shock when their fantasies and delusions are smashed right in front of their eyes.

Ahmadi children are getting westernized and you have no idea what they do in their cars and park bushes.

One pious bearded secretary of our Jamaat left his propery in Rabwah and came to the Islamic environment of Western world.

His daughter went to Western Schools and he arranged marriage of that girl , and you know what happened ,..her boy friends kept on calling even after her marriage and poor Pakistani husband ran away with shame..

Tons of examples like this ,..we can hush things up and we can pile up things under the carpet ,..but wait when all this puss will come out at once.

At least Jamaat is getting Euros and dollars

SILENCE IS GOLD,SPEECH IS SILVER.

silenced ahmaddy has neither respect for himself nor for ISLAM....

its really a disgrace for A 'TRUE MUSLIM' to write :

"Empty slogans of converting 2 billion pork eating christians, 1 billion cow urine drinking Hindus and 1 billion dog eating chinese to Ahmadiyyat are no longer deceiving today’s informed citizens.. "

however, i want to know with what do you feed your imaan.

how can silenced ahmaddy extend his hands infront of Allah for prayers, as his same fingers have typed such DISRESPECFUL words against others.

a "TRUE MUSLIM" is a messenger of love and peace but not of hatred.

moreover, this also proves that he has no respect for christian, hindus and chinese as well. if all "true muslims" in the whole world would reason like him then it would limit ISLAM to only one category of ppl. this is NOT true islam cuz true Islam is peace and GOD is love.

its good to speak out one's opinion as we believe in freedom of speech. we also know that gold is more precious than silver. but what silenced ahmaddy has written is not worth silver.

regarding the comments made against ahmady's jalsas, WE ALL KNOW THAT there is nothing true about it. it really shows that u have never assisted any of our jalsa or you are only trying to defame the AHMADIYYA JAMAAT.

anti ahmaddies can write chapters against ahamddiyyat but its not going to be the end for the community.

we are all breathing the same air despite our differences so this shows that Allah loves us all the same way. cuz HE is our CREATOR.

PEACE

Abu Aayan

I assure that I am very much present in the Tajneed of Jamaat Ahmadiyya and I am very carefully watching and recording activities of fraudulant Murrabies and their Mirza bosses.

If government of Pakistan do financial audit of Ahmadiyya Charity and make it public every year then half of Ahmadies will leave Jamaat Ahmadiyya in one day.

Mr Waseem !

Are you addicted to Jalsa ...??, do you think financial progress of Mirza family and their paid clergy is progress of an ordinary Ahmadi..??

There are lot of Jalsas and public gatherings which are much bigger than Ahmadiyya Jalsas, so why to sell this business like this..??

All those huge banners , LCD TV displays , gathering halls, Fancy cars,.. movie cameras etc etc Non of those things were made or invented by any Ahmadi.

So why brag about borrowed glory ..

Ahmadies in USA Jalsa were bored and they were sleeping or waiting for lunch or looking for some business or Rishta oppotunities ..

Ahmadies are now sick and tired of those melodious brain washing poems too..

Empty slogans of converting 2 billion pork eating christians, 1 billion cow urine drinking Hindus and 1 billion dog eating chinese to Ahmadiyyat are no longer deceiving today's informed citizens..

Go to Ahmadi homes and very few watch MTA , future generations of Ahmadiyyat are becoming westernized,

Sons of Murrabies are seen picking up Ahmadi girls right from the Jalsa area ,...phone numbers and SMS messages are exchanged ,..you never know what else they have in their pockets

~~~~~courts rulling on qadianism regarding qadiani cult~~~~

http://www.irshad.org/exposed/legal.php

must read

~~~Can any Qadiani (Ahmadi) Solve These Puzzles?

Speaking about his own books, Mirza Ghulam Qadiani wrote:
"All Muslims regard my books with reverence and care and benefit from their sublime thoughts except those who are the offspring of prostitutes (bastards); God has put a seal upon their hearts and they do not accept me."
(Aeena-e-Kamalat Islam, P.547-548;
Roohany Khazaen, Vol. 5, Page 547-548)

Mirza Ghulam Qadiani's own eldest son, Fadl Ahmad, did not believe in the claims of his father and did not respond to his call. In fact, when Fadl Ahmad died, Mirza Ghulam refused to participate in his funeral prayers!
(Al-Fadl, 22 April, 1941 and 2 May, 1941)

Puzzle 1:

In the light of Mirza's earlier declaration, what was his son? What would this make Fadl Ahmad's mother (Mirza's wife)? What kind of a man was Mirza Ghulam to have such people as family members?

With his offensive comment, Mirza Ghulam targeted the entire Muslim Ummah;
but, Allah(SWT) made Mirza the recipient of his own attack.
Indeed, the target of evil deeds is the evil doer himself.

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Over the years, Mirza Ghulam used vulgar and blasphemous statements regarding The Messiah(Jesus(pbuh)). After claiming he (Mirza) himself was The Messiah foretold by Hazrat Muhammad(SAW), Mirza claimed:

"It was revealed to me that due to my humility and sacrifice and trust in God and signs and blessings, this humble self is a replica of the first life of Messiah. The nature of my humble self and the nature of Messiah are very much similar to each other as if two pieces of the same Jewel or two fruits of the same tree."
(Roohany Khazaen, Vol. 1, P. 593)

Puzzle 2:

Which Messiah was he taking about when he said that Messiah was an alcoholic, a womaniser, a man of low moral character, a liar, an impostor, an unbeliever, ...? Jesus(pbuh) the beloved prophet of Allah(SWT) or himself, the false claimant to being Messiah? Life of which Messiah was he describing?

With his offensive writings, Mirza Ghulam targeted Jesus(pbuh);
but, Allah(SWT) made Mirza the recipient of his own attack.
Indeed, the target of evil deeds is the evil doer himself.

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Who was really Mirza Ghulam Qadiani? A reformer, Mehdi, Messiah, Muhammad, a Prophet, Hindu Lord, an obedient Servant of the British Imperialism, Dajjal, ...? Perhaps the best description is that given by himself:

"I am neither an earth-worm nor a human being.
I am the most hated organ of human body and a shame for humanity."
(Roohany Khazaen, Vol. 21, Page 127)

Puzzle 3:

Can you explain to us what is the "most hated organ of human body" and where is it located?

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Mirza Ghulam subjected Hazrat Eisa (Jesus(pbuh)) to much abuse and ridiculing. [Read: Mirza Ghulam's Tirade against Jesus(pbuh)]. But, he had earlier declared that:

"In Islam, blasphemy against any Prophet is Kofr."
(Roohany Khazaen, Vol. 23, P. 390)

Puzzle 4:

What can we safely conclude about Mirza Ghulam Qadiani?

SALAM

A bit out of the way but for general knowledge: Ahmadiyya Muslim Community progresses as usual and holds Jalsa Salana USA.

Here is a link from BBC Urdu website: http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/regional/story/2008/06/0...

Also today the Jalsa Salana Canada will be starting and could be seen live at www.mta.tv

PEACE

Mr. Silenced -----, I will not call you "Ahmedi" because you are for 1000% sure reasons NOT AN AHMADI. Not because your beliefs are completely out of phase and has no glimpse of Islam and Ahmadiyyat; but because you have not idea what an Ahmadi is ! The whole world knows who is operating your so called website i.e. www.Ahmedi.org. I just wonder that Islam teaches us "truth" but howcome all of you and others who claim to be Muslims indulge yourselves into such activities which are completely based on lies and frauds - I just wonder what will you say when your accontability will be done.
I will request you to please do not use the word "our" whenever you talk of Jama'at-e-Ahmadiyya. Because for obvious reasons it is not "your" Jama'at. After reading your messages even the most ignorant person could understand the motives behind your statements. Can someone talks of "his" Jama'at like this? If you feel all these bad rather horrible things are part of this Jama'at then why in the world are you still calling yourself an Ahmedi and then calling this Jama'at "your" Jama'at.
Your are perfectly right about people using different nicks and portraying different kind of wrong and misleading information about Ahmadiyya Jama'at. And Let me tell you one thing the nick "Silent Ahmedi" is also one of these. This Silent Ahmedi has nothing to do with this Loving Jama'at rather he is uselessly trying to mislead other Muslims by falsefully represting to be a member of this Jama'at.
And Lastly about the visas and immigrations. One would wonder, that probably the immigration and government officials of all these countries (who are thought to be most strict in their screenings) are so so simple and foolish that they get fooled by such basic designs of this small community who is not even allowed to call themselves what they believe they are in their own country !!! I salute your mathematical mind :). I can only pray for the mentality of yours. Probably one day you will also use a nick of a "silent Muslim" and will make the most horrible statement that our Greatest Prophet Muhammad Sallallaho Alehay Wassallam also took immigration of Madina right ??? For God sake spare this sweet, loving, and peaceful religion from your sick thoughts. I beg you pls spare "ISLAM" of all these. This lovely religion has had enough of such things and have had serious damages.

Whatever you say... No matter how hard yours (or others') words get; we will still keep on praying for all of you. Only because you still associate yourselves to the Prophet whose teachings we "practically" believe in - the prophet who was given the name of Rahmatullil Aalameen.
May God Bless you and all Muslims, Aameen
Abu Aayan.

Ahmadi students were never expelled , they were just suspended and they are now restored.

Administration of PMC actually saved lives of Ahmadi students as Ahmadi students were deliberately provoking emotional and otherwise angry citizens of that oppressed country.

Scanned copy of the Official Letter shown at the top is incomplete and it is just showing names of students but the actual wordings of the PMC administration is missing.

This is how these gangs operate and thrive on forged and incomplete documents.

People smuggling gangs of Ahmadiyya Rabwah can actually send wrong people to Europe and USA in the guise of Jalsa or annual gatherings.