but still i dont see any wrong in it i mean if there were abida perveen and i had been president of pakistan would have still danced if couldnt control my self as a president is also a human.

Anyways, there is probably room on the blogosphere for a Pakistani-centric blog where comments are more or less limited to (decent) shairi, atleast worth an experiment.

Mush ka jo hami hai…… is defnitely not decent poetry, I’ll concede that much.

Personally I enjoyed the exchange of poetry, a lot more than the exchange of non-poetic comments.

The ease of life is in the exposition of these two words
Be magnanimous with friends, moderate with foes
(Hafiz Shirazi)

I am waiting for a fatwa against Hafiz now, or what some miserable pri%k said about him.

Enjoy the beautiful poetry here:
http://www.pakistanstudies-aips.org/music/Rung_Vol_2/04_Dil_miirawad_zi_dastam.mp3

Finally, as a friendly advice don’t judge people (like Iqbal) you do not know.

Peace!

You are rushing to quote a goon but you ignore what many others have written about Iqbal like Justice Munawwar Mirza and others.

There is a story in the Masnavi about a king who, when proceeding on an expedition, would have men of intellect on his left, warriors on his right and sufis in front. For it is said that the pure hearts of sufis are like mirrors. The King used to see a reflection of his inner self in the sufis, and hence would realize his shortcomings.

What people write about Iqbal is often a reflection of themselves, that they see in a qalandar.

It is best if we end our arguments here.

I accept you apology on its face value i.e. you were echoing the lawyers. I would continue to emphasize open but civil discussion. I do consider it more “manly” (as you would like to put it) to stand up for my convictions without getting into the gutter. On that point, it is curious how easily Pakistanis’ manliness is threatened. Maybe some psycho-analysis is needed here…or maybe mass distribution of Viagra will cure our nation of a lot of insecurities and convert paper tigers into real men of conviction :)

I know this is a common delusion of grandiosity our generals have, but please do not equate yourself with God…it is not very tasteful (to say the least).

On your torrent of ashar by Allama: It is very interesting to see that how often our “mardan-e momineen” hide behind Iqbal. The same Iqbal who married four times and pursued love interests while being a married man [Abdul Majid Salik’s Biography of Iqbal; Attiya Faizi’s published letters & diaries]. The same Iqbal who, in his letter to Attiya Faizi, expressed his desire to drown himself in alcohol. I guess this is what happens in the post-Zia era when you elevate a (visionary and intelligent) human to the level of a saint. On the other hand, it is not very surprising that all our “guftar ke ghazi” will stand on Iqbal’s shoulders.

Iqbal Bara Updeshak Hai Man Batoon Mein Moh Leta Hai
Guftar Ka Yeh Ghazi to Bana, Kirdar Ka Ghazi Ban na Saka

Regards.

P.S. I have avoided this subject thus far as I don’t like to be boxed into categories, but I am not a Musharraf supporter (used to be until two years ago). I do believe that uptight societies stifle intellectual and economic development.

That shair was not directed at anyone, I was merely reporting what lawyers were saying at the convention, I am surprised that you took it personally.

I apologize if you thought I had directed the shair at you. As I said I was merely reporting what I heard the lawyers say. After all the saying goes:

Zaban-khalq, naqara-i Khuda