White Phosphorus used in Operation Silence
On 12th July, AAJ Tv boradcasted a program of Live with Talat in which Talat Hussain visited Jamia Hafsa. While touring the bullet ridden compound a number of military personal hovered around, at a certain point Talat Hussain asked an accompanying Army personal about all the evidence of smoke around the area asking, “Why is there so much smoke?”, the solider replied “WP”, Talat put another question “Please explain WP?”, the solider answered “White Phosphorus.”
White Phosphorus is a flare / smoke producing incendiary weapon which is also used as an offensive Anti-Personnel flame compound capable of causing serious burns or death. White phosphorus weapons are controversial today because of its potential use against humans, for whom one-tenth of a gram is a deadly dose and according to the Geneva Convention which was later amended by the Convention on Certain Conventional Weapons signed into effect in 1997, expressively prohibits the use against civilians. White Phosphorus weapons have been used in the recent past by Israel in Lebanon and US and UK in Iraq, but probably the first time ever by a an army against its own people
Article 1 of Protocol III of the Convention on Certain Conventional Weapons (Wikipedia) defines an incendiary weapon as ‘any weapon or munition which is primarily designed to set fire to objects or to cause burn injury to persons through the action of flame, heat, or combination thereof, produced by a chemical reaction of a substance delivered on the target’. The same protocol also prohibits the use of incendiary weapons against civilians or in civilian areas. However, the use against military targets outside civilian areas is not explicitly banned by any treaty.
There continues to be a strong debate on how Musharraf should have handled this situation, but what surprises me is the inhumanity of this attack, dexterity of the assault should have meant targeted exchange of fire maybe an occasional rubber bullet to pacify the milder militants, but the indiscriminate use of chemical weapons, by the National Army against its own people. Is jaw dropping serious, its akin to the mass murder which happened in Karachi on May 12th when the Army headed off to the barracks leaving the city at the hands of ruthless killers for six hours..
To understand the gravity of the situation one has only to look at these two images of burnt bodies the sight is excruciatingly painful, when the Americans used White Phosphorous on the victims in Fallujah back in April 2004.
If you look at the top most image which appeared in Dawn on 13th July (link) one sees the classic signs of a high intensity flame, which reached astounding temperatures to melt the steel framework of ceiling fans, one must also noted that the public was not shown the remains of numerous people killed in the disaster and quickly buried them in concealed wooden coffins the next day.
I am shocked and stunned at what has just happened, it should be enough for the world to wake up and ask for an unconditional removal of the dictator
Comments
Damn…
This thing, I vehemently oppose. I fully support the use of rubber bullets. While AR was trapped with the militants in a single room, I did wondered why they didn’t just open fire on them using rubber bullets or just throw in tear gas inside. I personally think these would have been the better options.
Has it occurred to you that it might be used by the suicide bomber himself? You certianly have no idea about weapon systems Doc, its better you stuck to dentistry rather than try your luck at ‘chemicals’. Guess it figures why you aint a real doc.
Anyways, read this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_phosphorus#Smoke-screening_properties
Because of the great weight efficiency of WP smoke, it is particularly suited for applications where weight is highly restricted, such as hand grenades and mortar bombs. An additional advantage for hand smoke grenadesâ€â€which are more likely to be used in an emergencyâ€â€is that the WP smoke clouds form in a fraction of a second.
and
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hand_grenade#Smoke_grenades
A second type of smoke grenade is the explosive bursting type. These are filled with white phosphorus (WP). Rather than igniting a mixture which burns to make smoke, the WP grenade contains a bursting charge which spreads the white phosphorus by explosive action. White phosphorus catches fire in the presence of air, and burns with a brilliant yellow flame, producing copious amounts of dense white smoke (phosphorus pentoxide).
wp, you seem to me army’s propaganda agent. White phosphorus is a flare / smoke producing incendiary weapon,[1] or smoke-screening agent, made from a common allotrope of the chemical element phosphorus. White Phosphorus (WP) bombs and shells are essentially incendiary devices. don’t try to defend something which you can not.
WP - are you trying to prove something? Granted I might not know much about chemicals weapons but it seems you don’t know much either. As your information is also a derivative of the same wikipedia articles I refer above and you choose to highlight some selective information without bringing the incident into full context.
It seems you have not read my entire post as I do make a proper reference to the smoke screen utility, I quote (start of second para) ‘White Phosphorus is a flare / smoke producing incendiary weapon’ Yes smoke screens is undoubtedly one use of the chemical agent the question I raise is in context to Lal Masjid and according to Article 1 of Protocol III of the Convention on Certain Conventional Weapons which categorically state that this weapon should never be used within civilian locations - its simply inhumane to do such a thing.
It just seems that the Military actually had the intention to SILENCE the people inside forever. Honestly had if they wanted to disarm the militants in a peaceful manner there are far more effective measures then simply using WP to roast them alive leaving behind a full fledged Massacre to ensure no survivors live to tell the tale. With the proper mindset, ample use of Stun Grenades, Tear Gas and Rubber Bullets could have been used and a full permission given to the Military personnel to use bullets when and if needed. But postmortem examination of the location shows bullet holes everywhere and blackened walls.
The other self incriminating evidence presented by the Military itself, was the quick burial of all the dead without the decency of handing the bodies over to their relatives, the entire task was undertaken quickly, all bodies locked in wooden caskets as if to hide the evidence and buried in a mass grave in a controlled area, hence ensuring future security in case snoops ever decide to dig up the evidence
White Phosphorus literally burnt the people inside and everything done like clockwork to ensure all evidence is quickly cleaned up and shoved under the carpet
So WP I think you are barking up the wrong tree when the real information pertaining to the incident and the use of White Phosphorus lies barely a link below on the same Wikipedia page you so valiantly point towards. Effect on Humans
army is continously underattack, 2 attacks yesterday, one severe attack this morning. Musharraf is just keep killing his own army!!
Well Done Musharraf!
Atleast a message has gone to the miscreants that now on there would be no mercy for them, no political leader will lobby for their safe release from judiciary and no one would give them next chance to commit the similar crime against the writ of the govt.
Many people does not know that in one of the Hadith of Bukhari, Prophet(peace be upon him) has said “to obey the muslim ruler even if he strings u, or even if he cruely takes away the money which u have earned through the hardship. Donot disobey him unless he orders u and physically stops u to offer your prayers”.
I think Musharraf or any govt official has not given any such order. Then why are we Disobeying his orders and trying to make Ghazi Rasheed a Hero. According to this he is straight away a REBILLION.
@waseem was aunty shamim not challenging the writ of government by openly running a brothel in heart of islamabad? â–¼ and should the government not be tagged incompetent when it didn’t took any action against this aunty(brothel owner) ?
â–¼ according to PML Q’s Sardar Nasrullah Darashek , “if the famous Aunty Shamim published her client list then wives of almost 200+ members of PML Q and MQM will file for divorce, and coz we all don’t want that to happen so PM should intervene..” he said in cabinet meeting and then Shaukat inquired about Aunty’s whereabouts and every one was looking at each other totally clueless.. very next day issue of Shuakat Aziz and Condoleeza Rice affair cropped up…
Time to wake up and face the facts. The people holed up in the Madrassas cum fortress were no innocent students. They were hardcore militants and no army in the world would have stood by and watched its capital being run over by a bunch of terrorists.
Good job by the army.
Good Job Musharraf
You should be very well paid, where do you want to deposit the check? in Swiss or TelAviv
Mush(Yazeed of our time) is now putting the blame on the agencies just like his partner Altaf Hussain(Hussain should be taken away from his name).
Poor fauji jawans are free to serve as cannon fodders while the Generals enjoy the rum.
Generals Keep enjoying the rum, just remember people wouldn’t come to take you down from the pole when they hang you from the pole on Jinnah Avenue.
Dear Awab,
Thanks for informing us of this heinous manner in which many innocent people alot of them children were killed.
While we do not at all subscribe to Ghazi brothers’ acts and deeds and while we condemn the way they were challenging the writ of the state, we put the entire blame on the government for first instigating the whole issue, for deliberately lingering it on and then for taking action in the most unfortunate, the most inappropriate, the most inhuman and the most condemnable manner.
President-General and his henchmen will have to account for each innocent person who lost his/her life in this bloody game.
Musharraf did what he was told by the US. After all he had to keep the Pentagon happy and get their blessings. I dont care if WP was used or TNT was used. Those dead people are gone. What’s horrifying is that our own ruler, who claims to be a ‘muslim’ and swore upon the Holy book to protect it’s people, did all that just to please the Christiandom and save his chair. If his SSG commandos were so well trained, why didn’t they sneek up into the mosque and arrest the mullahs? They were so coward that they used weapons like WP. This is ‘not’ intelligence. This is cowardness. Only the coward ones use weapons. Even if they wanted to use the weapons, they could have used rubber bullets or bullet shockers.
This, too, is a punishment of our sins by Allah Almighty in the form of an evil ruler. Allah has bestowed upon us an evil dictator, ruler, killer, murderer and a womenizer as a result of our sins. A ruler who openly claims that he likes Johnny Walker better than any other drink.
Jihad will be successful only and only if all the Muslim countries join hands and be one. What AR was planning to do was also stupidity. A handful of 3000 people, who later on surrender so easily upon seeing tanks, cannot bring peace, Islam and happiness in this world.
I don’t know if all this Lal Masjid thingee was a plot by the ISI or if it was for real. All I know is that government did this just to please The Illuminati. The governemnt know’s where Osama is. Why doesn’t it use WP against him? Maybe becasue he is sitting with top govt officials right now! It’s funny to see that both US and our government are adopting the same steps to abolish what they call ‘terrorism’!!
From: http://groups.google.com/group/islamicmails/browse_thread/thread/7156b022c9771977
Burning a Living Thing Alive
Hadith:
Companion Abdullah ibn Mas’ud has re-lated that “[Once our blessed Prophet
Sallalaho Alaihi Wasallam saw a ant hole which we had set fire to and asked
“Who burnt it?”. We said that we had done it. Thereupon our blessed Prophet
Sallalaho Alaihi Wasallam said that “Only he who created fire and no one
else has the right to burn (living things) in tire”. This hadith has also
been quoted in Bukhari.
These hadith show that burning alive of living things, whether man or beast
or any halal animal like some birds or haram ones like mouse, cat, dog etc.
is not allowed: even dangerous animal poisonous creatures like snakes,
scorpions, wasps, may not be burned. Bedbugs too should not be killed with
hot water. This act is a major sin.
However if there is no other way of escaping a dangerous creature like snake
etc. then it is permitted.
Musharaf is a pupite whose control is in the hands of North,Musharaf knows that to kept their uniform + persident for next session he have to do this type of things,i think he forget that nobody is forever in this world i pray that MIGHTY ALLAH SHOW A RIGHT PATH TO HIM
Here is a bit about “WP” by George Monbiot from the piece entitled Behind the phosphorus clouds are war crimes within war crimes:
“The Pentagon argues that white phosphorus burns people, rather than poisoning them, and is covered only by the protocol on incendiary weapons, which the US has not signed. But white phosphorus is both incendiary and toxic. The gas it produces attacks the mucous membranes, the eyes and the lungs. As Peter Kaiser of the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons told the BBC last week: “If … the toxic properties of white phosphorus, the caustic properties, are specifically intended to be used as a weapon, that of course is prohibited, because … any chemicals used against humans or animals that cause harm or death through the toxic properties of the chemical are considered chemical weapons.”
The US army knows that its use as a weapon is illegal. In the Battle Book, published by the US Command and General Staff College at Fort Leavenworth, Kansas, my correspondent David Traynier found the following sentence: “It is against the law of land warfare to employ WP against personnel targets.” …
You can watch the video mentioned in the Monbiot article (Fallujah: The Hidden Massacre) at Google video or you can download it here
A good discussion about the video can be found at Democracy Now
Oh My God, If this is true then Allah will punish those responsible with His magnificent ways. I have firm belief that they can’t run away from this. Insha Allah.
First of all this Hadit says that u must obey a Muslim leader Here the word use “Muslim” You A$$hole should also know the meaning of Muslim and the quality of a Muslim. You should read the Hadith which relevant to that who is a good Muslim. If o remember there is an other Hadith that obey your parents in every way of life but if that stop you to obey the commands of Allah then don’t care of them. Here i just want to ask one Question to you according to your statement that if Musharef Command you that send your sister for one night in my bedroom. will you obey this Muslim leader or you will take action?? you are so silly actually you don’t care fo you mothers and sister. Plz approve this comment if you are brave enough and let the honest people judge that you are right or me.
Can you show that soldier who said this? Any proof? Since the operation of Lal Masjid is over, numerous “emotional” articles like “Kaun thee Kahan Chali Gaii” etc have emerged just to provoke people and make media popular.
And what is the chance that WP was used by the “innocent students of lal masjid” themselves??
YOU ALL FREAKED UP ASS HOLES!!
ONLY HELL IS FIT FOR YOU.
YOU ALL SHOULD BE CRUSHED TO DEATH. FOR DISOBEYING ALLAH. FOR SUPPORTING A KUFAR INSURGENCEY. FOR ABUSING YOUR STATE ARMY.
An remember, once a person asked Prophet PBUH, that what if after you there comes a tyrant ruler.
prophet BUh said to obey him, or leave the country.
the person asked what if he is really bad and practices genocide.
Prophet PBUH said: Still obey him, for surley Allah has a severe punishment ready for him.
Thoygh I regard mr Musharraf as a leader and hero, if anyone has a promblem with it, please refer to this hadith.
Allah also said in Quran:
there would be soem of you, who would bring so called islamic revolcution. But for surley, those of you would be punished in the day of qayammah. And when you would ask why, you would be tld, that what you fought for, was not for islam but for revolt (against Islam)
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Forgive me, I was unable to remember the surrah and ayat number.
So my friends, learn and understand thew etachings of the holy Quran and then come to debate.
pkobserver and others,
Unfortunately many people believe that the Bukhari hadith quoted by Waseem is the only thing uttered by Prophet (PBUH) about rulers and obeying/disobeying them.
Reality is different as can be guessed by acts of Hussain ibne Ali (RA) and many other sahaba and salf e saleheen. Offcourse the act of revolt is haram in normal circumstances. But I have read in biography of Imam Abu Hanifah that he himself supported a revolt against an unjust ruler.
You can find detailed analysis by learned scholars about the conditions that permits a revolt.
What I know is that these permissions are very strict in the sense that they make it very difficult to justify a revolt.
I recommend everyone to consult religious scholars before making harsh comments about any party.
People who have used this should have just thought for a few moment that they are also human beings whom they are firing white phosphorus on. I don’t know where people’s feelings have gone. They could have dropped there mentality and feeling to such an extent just for few pieces of paper; I’ve never thought about that A muslim can also be like this.
Dear All,
I read all of your comments. I appreciate that there is a division in thoughts, everyone trying to prove the other wrong. May be there are ten references in Islam that advocate Musharraf’s actions. The same is true for Jamia Hafsa people. Also the emotional articles are also causing mixed opinions in our minds.
But for two minutes take Jamia Hafsa incident at a global level. Musharraf cannot survive without the support of USA, Britian and some other nations. Lets be frank here, however strong our internal protests against him, we cant get rid of him ourselves. With Bush seeing a certain exit and Tony Blair already gone… we are certainly seeing a restraint attitude from their successors. In such circumstances, who would support musharraf. With the Chief Justice incident along with missing people problem, Musharraf is becoming increasingly unpopular in the world.
What would u do if you were Musharraf… the Jamia Hafsa incident certainly raises a lot of references as organized by Musharraf to gain global popularity. Most of might think he has become more unpopular.. but the fact of the matter is International Media hails him and so are the International Govts praising him for a job well done indicating that a strong Musharraf is better for them.
Again i am not quoting here… but a lot of people suggest that both the two Maulvi’s were ISI hired agents. It may be wrong but i believe it.
The whole thing to me seems like the govt had this wild card and it was the time to play it. But i really feel sorry for the innocent lives that were taken up ( both the army and the Madrassa students ) for putting up a puppet show.
Army was quick to hide the evidence…. what more do u expect from Musharraf and ISI. They are known to mishandle everything. Mishandle or should i say plan everything perfectly.
What i dont get is … why are we so carefree as if nothing happened. We dont even demand a commission over the issue. Just to investigate where somebody went wrong. The worst part is after a week .. the whole issue will die down as if nothing happened.
We certainly dont deserve this….. Why ? Why are we so shameless? Why are we so silent even if Musharraf was totally correct ?
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To Waseem,
You Quoted “Donot disobey him unless he orders u and physically stops u to offer your prayers”
This is a fact in recent history (I don’t know the exact date) but I know when Prince Charles came to visit Islamabad’s famous “Faisal Masjid”, the namnazi’s were prohibited to say there prayer, even the azaan was stopped. And yes it was done physically and people weren’t allowed to the Masjid at that time.
If you say, I can give you the reference of various columns and the news headings.
Regards,
Waqas.
@waseem and others supporting mush.
“to obey the muslim ruler even if he strings u, or even if he cruely takes away the money which u have earned through the hardship. Donot disobey him unless he orders u and physically stops u to offer your prayers”
this hadith posted is first of all mistranslated.
secondly, the muslims ruler is one who rules according to islam and sharia. If we look athe the issue through islam, mush is an illegitimate ruler ruling with kufr policies.
If we look at it though democracy, mush is a dictator, who is running the country based on his wishes instead of the peoples wishes. he has broken many constitutional laws and continues to do so.
look at it anyway, mush’s policies are wrong and should be challenged.
pakistan needs a revolution, no to become better, but to just servive…. pakistan will be destroyed if the people dont step up.
@saqib,
brother, to you honestly believe that there can be an “independent” and unbiased commision set up to investigate this? You think mush is stupid enough to allow that?? lol
there can be nothing done through govt channels for this issue…. i think we will have to either work for a change in the system or wait for it to happen. only then can he have the slightest hope for justice
Dear Waseem I think you are watching PTV and do not read news papers. although these were millitants but how they convert? who force them? who use them? do you know any thing? Shame on you by saying or giving courage to a murderer on killing of innocent people/millitants.
People are saying that Mush is killing his own army ? Is he asking those terrorist to do sucide bombing? Dont tell me that because of Mushi’s act, army is being targeted. If you think like this then according to your thinking Mushi did the right thing by attacking Lal Masjid just to kill Gazi.
It is not like Mushi attacked the Lal Mosque immediatly, negotiations were going on for last 3 months and terrorists were demanding safe passage. Come on, how could u set free those terrorist and doing do would have meants that every crimnal should make hostages after doing crime to get free. By the way, If Gazi was so dam Ismalic then why did he demand for safe passage rather than dying for his so called Islamic cause. Didnt he mean like “Set me free and I will refrain myself from enforcing shariyah or will not do what Prophet Muhammad (P.B.U.H.) asked me to do in my dreams.”
Don’t tell me that suicide bombing is not haram in Islam. Doing suicide in Islam is haram, so
how can’t suicide bombing be haram. These extermists are simply spoiling the image of Islam, its not the west but we muslims who are damaging the image of Islam.
For every action Govt. does, these Mullahs say “yeh Umricah kay gulam hai”. And I think in Islam, one become matured at the age of 18 ( or 21 ) and until then he/she should follow what his/her parents ask them to do. Then why Gazi didn’t allow those innocents to do what their parents asked them to do i.e. to get out of the Lal mosque. Actually, he kidnapped them, you people are willing to read and believe what Shahid Masood said in his article but not those innocent children who escaped from Lal Masjid and said they were threatened to be killed, if tried to escape.
Unfortunetly, we are becoming less and less tolerant.
My God bless Pakistan, Pakistan Zindabad
woh waqt merijan buhat door nahe hy
jab had se guzr jaey ga gam o dard ka drya
chhin jaey gi tum se tumhari becar zindagi
chin jaey ge tum se tumhary ansoo aahen
apne dile khushfahim ko nashad karo gy
PervaizMusharraf ko buhat yaad karo gy
AOA ALL.
i read all your posts hmmm all of you said what you think is right. just ONE if you people answer who are saying things in favor of GENERAL.
there were militants sorry armed militants, having rocket launcher, heavy machine gun, hand garnate etc etc.
why they not even fire a single one when they were sure of the thing that they will die.
and as all of us know that when any living creature got to know that his life is in danger he will do every thing possible
.Ghazi is Hero or not regardless to that what Gov did
shameful all the impression was Pakistan is a terrorist state and all the people in “darhi” are terrorist.
and last thing here someone says revolution :-) great word but not made for Pakistanis just participate in columns, comments, table talks, in public places,in offices every where give the impression that you have the latest update but you including me cant do any thing for revolution it needs blood and we cant we can enjoy RUM thats it
take care everyone
and try to do some thing practical not like this sitting in an AC room reading and writing comments on hot topics
Saqib Perwaiz says “They are known to mishandle everything.”
i agree. this was a typically heavy-handed approach to a problem which was allowed to get out of hand and was finally resolved(?) as if an actual war was being fought. once again the intermittently fragile peace that pakistan has known in the last forty years has been shattered.
now everything is one big f**king mess again and a fleeting vision of a stable pakistan once again recedes into the distance.
I said the same same in my second comment that a Muslim ruler is who rule the country according to Islam here all the people who are supporting A man they all are ashamed they are coting Hadith today which showing them a way to defend their statement i asked one question to all of you who are supporting Precedent that if Musharraf ask you to send your own sister or your mothers for a night what will you do will you obey this leader do you think that this is a Muslim leader and this is a Islamic State. 60 years ago we lost millions of lives for this country and the purpose was to perform prayers without any objection without any tolerance our elders like Quaid though for us that they will teach us the way of Islam and today your president is saying that he don’t want any Fundamentalists and you too he said that he don’t want any Extremism then you tell me for what purpose we split Hindustan in to two part what is the purpose of Pakistan when we are not allow to perform our prayers freely whats is the objective to have this country let it blow man we don’t need army like this who promise us to save our lives from enemies across the borders and killing our innocent children by themselves. This is the time for you to wakeup otherwise m afraid that you children will not open their eyes in an Islamic environment and their will be nobody to teach them Qur’an.
I have no sympathy for anyone willing to consider me as a “colateral damage” in their suicide bombings. When do these extremists care about the innocent Muslims they kill in their suicide bombings? These extremists were no innocent citizens. I place the blame of this incident on Aunti Aziz.
Good job Pakistanis
You make your enemies happy, things sure are turing better for them.
Keep killing each other and soon you will become Baghdaad and please don’t stop blaming each other.
army is continously underattack, 2 attacks yesterday, one severe attack this morning. Musharraf is just keep killing his own army!!
army is continously underattack, Musharraf is just keep killing his own army!!
pakistan will be destroyed (God forbid) if the people don’t step up.
My God bless Pakistan.
All this seems like bad humor - something that could have been fashioned better but lost now. On that contrary, its tragedy rather than humor but isnt tragedy supposed to contain that truth element that comedy does not. Guess we’ve started living in a make-believ world guided by logic and testimony. Its a fake!!
Musharaf killed and killing innocent humans of Pakistan, these are not only the human these are the future UALAMA, Oh ALLAH help Pakistan and prevent Pakistan from cruel leaders.
Musharaf is just helping America to constitute a new map of pakistan. in which NWFP will serve to controle Afghanistan and Balochistan will serve to controle Iran.
Mr. Ordinary citizen,, God will tell when the time come that who is innocent or what. pepole like u r the real enemy of islam and islamic immage not those who r fighting for the name of Allah
Ms Sarah,
Please spare me the propoganda on behalf of Taliban and their cronies. I cannot believe that no one, especially the main stream media, is complaining (if not shouting) about the fact that these people are killing innocient Muslims on daily basis. No, I am no fan of Musharraf, but I consider him far lessor evil than these warp-minded extremists. They just want to suicide-bomb us to stone age unless we obey exactly what they say and believe in.
There is NO reason, what so ever, for having guns and explosive materials in a mosque!
By the way, Imam of Kaaba has just asked us to beware of “fake Jihad”. Who do you think he was refering to? Pakistan Army? So, in your view is he also the “real enemy of Islam”?
Islam is about tolerance and humality. What these people are preaching is arrogance. I will not be arrogant enough to pass judgement on you. Its Allah’s progative to make judgements on whether I am a better Muslim or you.
Great post. However, a minor issue. The spelling mistakes and grammatical errors in the first line itself, make it jarring.
The spelling of broadcast in first sentence needs correction. Soldier is written as Solider again and again. In the first sentence there is no need to to put ‘of’ before programme. It should be …a program ‘Live with…’ Personnel, Personal check it also. In second para’s end….a an army….I am pointing it out just because it is too big a blog to afford such errors. Don’t take otherwise.
Hello Teeth Maestro,
Are you ok? I am concerned about you. Since you have not posted any blog since this one on July 14. I pray you are not another missing person.
I sincerely pray for your well being and please do post a message for your readers.
Thanks
We Support You Musharraf Kill All The Mullah Bastards and Save Our Pakistan!
PAKISTAN ZINDABAD!
MULLAHISM MURDABAD!
Dear All Brothers and sisters,
I saw alot of comments about lal masjid and hafsa madrasa… I just ask one question to all my brothers and sisters… These Madrasa Hafsa Girls and Lal Masjid people from where they were ??? The most poorest family background for each one… I will tell you Inshallah Allah will give punishment for all those who envolve in this operation.. Inshallah Busharaf will go to hell soon… Even when i am thinking how these poor girls and students pass their 8 days in mosque. i should give them salutee… Really Karbala ki yaad taza ho gayeee… Water, Gas, Electricity everything was closed from these poor students… I dont know what Busharaf want to prove… He is really an agent of Yahood and he is bringing new Islam for Pakistan…
Can Busharaf Explain to Pakistani people what is fundamentalist and what is moderate…. Is their is different islam for each one… My brothers and sisters i assure you that Busharaf is really proving an agent role in Pakistan.. Lets us pray from Almighty Allah to forgive our sins… and remove this agent ruler from us… Ameen and Allah give patience to all that families of Lal Masjid students.. Ameen.. Inshallah their action will be remember in golden words in Islamic history…
I give them salam Ya Marhaba Ghazi Shaheed
Salam Alikum
We don’t support you to kill the citizen of Pakistan just to amuse the Bastards Libral Radicals of this Society AND YOUR MAMMA AMERICA
PAKISTAN ZINDABAD
LIBRAL RADICALS MURDABAD
As for as I judged and think about several things occurs after Musharaf take over bring me to the conclussion that he is an agent of Pakistan enemy..
after my conclusion which bring me to this point.
1. Pakistan become an Ally of USA against Terrorist.. while we havnt any obligation against terrorist they never attack on any pakistan personal. before We become ally of USA.. He doesnt care about pakistan and pakistani interest just for USA interest.
2. He shouldnt go to resolve the internal issues through dialog he goes for Militry action against his own people
a. Balochistan.. whether Bughti is right or wrong I dont go in this discussion but he is a political leader who gave right to musharaf to attack on them why should he dont go for dialogl.. Mussaraf want to make enemy of pakistan its own people. tell me did Baloch forget this what our army did so.
b. Jamia hifsa.. as much and better arguments have been passed by my friend and I lake knowledge infront of them so leave it as its much betterly discussed.
3. Pakistan is founded for Islam… Pakistan ka matlab kia . La Ilaha Illallah.. He pulled out this… why we got freedom from india that now we moved towards seculariasim. India has good secularisam and democracy then us .. why…… Is Muslims of pakistan accept this.. ? It will divide the people of pakistan into two parts one fundamentalism and Liberals…
4. What About Abdul Qadeer Khan.. Do any one know where he is and in what condition?
5. There is a respect and love for Army and Army personal.(Also Pakistan army has the Record that we surrenderd 90 thousand army… our army consume more then 80% budget ..) but is there left any love and sympathy for Army? When army take action against its own people kill their own people. Litteraly every one become happy when we hear that pakistan armys is attacked and …. army person were killed… toward what they are going.. towards what..
As there are many points.. but I think that i can not write english much that can be easily understand..
In the Last I want to share some words about russia . why russia is broken.. why… As for as I know. it is breaked by Gorbachauf.. what did gorbachauf did. he just replace the base and basics of russia.. and this only this break the russia..
Now just think what musharaf is doing….
Musshara and his other peoples will left this country in miserable state but.. we we pakistani will suffer . the suicide attacks as each army ruller had given us a gift , Ayub and Yahya khan Break pakistan into two parts.. but no one is going to blame him for blame we have political leaders like butho , butho bring back our 90 thousand army but he is still blamed .. I dont know why.
Zia he brings Kalachinkauf and heroine culture to pakistan , he plays with islam.. Do any one blame him …?
and Musharaf what he is going to give us..
what…
India is going to be a develop country .. but where we are now.. would we will be like iraq, afghanistan , algeria, somalia..
Where we would be?…
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SABAH NOO BUSH KOL BHEJWANDA KEYOON NAI
APNAY KARTOOTAN TAY SHERMANDA KEYOON NAI
HARAMEE TU MER JANDA KEYOON NAI
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hi …i work in a uk based company and about 70% people belong to UK…and every one is pointing out our moderate government act against LAL MUSJID ….and i am speakless ….knowing the facts and i hav a Question with me with all the people of islam …r v muslim …if ur answer is YES…then explain how??? cuz muslims acta r like non muslims ….may god bless us….no bush no israeil no anti muslim power let us do an act against our people …where r human rights Organizations where r our rights ….shit on ur face MUSHARAf ….u will die a death of of a bitch ….and soon ….GOD has written the decision ….and no bush is sporting him…..byebye pakistani ppl awake
Ms.Asma show me some physical evidence that White Phosphorous used other than the TALAT Hussain saying.Now the picture you present was the classic piece of astraying people from the truth.The above picture that you mentioned had high intensity flame.And you were quick in giving links from WIKIPEDIA of White Phosphorous.Did you ever done Search On High Intensity Or High Explosives Namely Plastic explosive or C-4.The picture clearly tells us that a suicide bomber blew hime self in the room and it was also mentioned in Press briefing that most of the suicide jackets were strapeed with C-4 explosives.judging by the size of romm,if such bomb explode in a small room then things will surely melt the Fan and other white appearings due to this fact.
As Ms.Asma Put it in her article:
at a certain point Talat Hussain asked an accompanying Army personal about all the evidence of smoke around the area asking, “Why is there so much smoke?â€Â, the solider replied “WPâ€Â, Talat put another question “Please explain WP?â€Â, the solider answered “White Phosphorus
The most intrestiong part of above conversation is that Our Talat saw a lot of smock, i must emphasize that point again and as put by Ms.Asma “A lot Of somck†from which we could easily counclude that it was White phosphorus Smock.Now lets see what are its effect.
Exposure to white phosphorus smoke in the air can also cause liver, kidney, heart, lung or bone damage and even death.
A former US soldier who served in Iraq says breathing in smoke close to a shell caused the throat and lungs to blister
Link:http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4441902.stm
WP smoke irritates the eyes and nose in moderate concentrations. With intense exposures, a very explosive cough may occur.WP may also cause liver, heart or kidney damage.
Source:Same wikipedia source given by Ms.Asma.
Now by applying Same on Talat Who saw lot of smock but never had a cough or or other symptoms of WP smock.As we shall intend to forget quickly,I shall remind you once again Talat said that There were lot’s of smock.But it did’nt have any effect on him.Seems Strange.!!!!!!!!!!!!!
also few of you calling worse handling of the situation.Now Tell Me,didn;t goverment engage them for 6 months especially after abducting almost 10 chinese.Who initiated the whole 3rd July scenario.Now don’t become emotional here and start saying that it was statred all by the government without any Proof.The whole world saw how Bura clad womans with stick in thier hands and some men with them tried to snatch things from Police.nd when police lathi charged them Some Lal masjid people shoot them.Now Didn’t Government engage with LM for on whole week from 3rd july to 9th july..Now more intrestingly, did’nt Molvi Ghazi asked the government to give blanket clamency to all even the murders with them and also.Then we heard contradictory reports from Ghazi Brothers that they had only few rifles and guns with them,But how come they had bombs,machine guns and other sophisticated weapons.Isn’t it call a hypocrisy that too from a mullah.Didn’t The government treated the students of Jamia Hafsa and fareedia very well and gave them 5000 ruppess each.Good deeds are always mean to be forgotten quickly
Ms.Asma show me some physical evidence that White Phosphorous used other than the TALAT Hussain saying.Now the picture you present was the classic piece of astraying people from the truth.The above picture that you mentioned had high intensity flame.And you were quick in giving links from WIKIPEDIA of White Phosphorous.Did you ever done Search On High Intensity Or High Explosives Namely Plastic explosive or C-4.The picture clearly tells us that a suicide bomber blew hime self in the room and it was also mentioned in Press briefing that most of the suicide jackets were strapeed with C-4 explosives.judging by the size of romm,if such bomb explode in a small room then things will surely melt the Fan and other white appearings due to this fact
Now i will explain you tactfully rather than emotionally.
Just after 9/11 attacks,America unofficially threatened Pakistan to support her in the war on terror or be ready to bombed back in to Stone age.Now this phrase contain following possible scenario.
1.India would be given green light to attack Pakistan with American support which very advance weponary.Now Pakistan due to decade old sanctions weren’t have any thing modern in its arsenal but atomb bomb and missiles.But at this Point you will point at me that 1 muslim soldier is enough for5 or six Kuffars.Ok. if pakistan win the war then how india could allowed us to held their terrioy than how could we save are country from the flying missiles that were to be fired from missile.This all I am saying is not some thing pulled out of my ass,but chain of events that triggered after 9/11.Indian ambassodar gainning enough support form within UN and passed resolution Pak should stop Terrorist from Kashmir or else we will retaliate back just like America.
2.US will not give green light to India but rather itself bombed the whole area of FATA itself.Now i will remind you here that America has stalth plane which means it canot be located on radar and can carry up 40000 pound ammunition which is equivalent to 18,500 KG boms.Don’t believe please fell free to visit the link below to know what the heck B-2 is.
Defence Talk
Now tell me if we don’t agree with America,then what the possible heck of sensible choice were left with us???????
Now come with sensible and tactfull responses rather than emotional and full of abuses,casting doubts that even did you pass The Marticulation exam.????????
Now you are bashing musharraf emotionally because he launch attacks on Lal Masjid.Now Describe Who tried to steal guns and radios from on 3rd July,my my my my my isn’t it called a theft, Who shot a Ranger,my my my isn’t it called a murder,Who destroyed the building of Ministry of Environment, my my my isn’t it call a break in where Our Holy Prophet does’nt even break in to some body house rather knock three times and if there were no response go back.
Chemical Weapons’ Convention of the UN says:
“No it’s not forbidden by the CWC if it is used within the context of a military application which does not require or does not intend to use the toxic properties of white phosphorus. White phosphorus is normally used to produce smoke, to camouflage movement.
If that is the purpose for which the white phosphorus is used, then that is considered under the convention legitimate use.
”
Once again people like Teeth Maestro have proved their willingness to resort to rumor mongering as usual.
Burning WP produces a hot, dense white smoke. Most forms of smoke are not hazardous in the kinds of concentrations produced by a battlefield smoke shell. However, exposure to heavy smoke concentrations of any kind for an extended period (particularly if near the source of emission) does have the potential to cause illness or even death.
WP smoke irritates the eyes and nose in moderate concentrations. With intense exposures, a very explosive cough may occur. However, no recorded casualties from the effects of WP smoke alone have occurred in combat operations and to date there are no confirmed deaths resulting from exposure to phosphorus smokes.[22] The Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry has set an acute inhalation Minimum Risk Level (MRL) for white phosphorus smoke of 0.02 mg/m³, the same as fuel oil fumes. (By contrast, the chemical weapon mustard gas is 30 times more potent: 0.0007 mg/m³.)[23]
Therefore I am guessing… Gun powder and tear gas are also forms of chemical weapons.
Wah Pakistanion wah.
YLH, I can not use your language, you seem to be trained by fascist army in propaganda , but the use of white phasphorous in Red Mosque was to kill/burn people , there are 58 bodies which are burnt as admitted by your fascist army. And there was no possibility of using it for camouflage in red mosque.
You can not fool civilized nations though US and west will ignore for now , but later this massacre is going to come back to military generals an they should fear abu ghraib jail and death like Saddam.
Lest you forget I will remind you Saddam was hanged in case of murder of 148 people in Dujail in 1982 at that time US and west were his friends but later world saw how Saddam and his military men were shown naked in abu ghraib.
So there is a hint for you and your army in this.
i think Mr Pervez Musharruf is playing in the hand of USA. Now he brought US & Al_qaeeda war in pakistan. it is entirly his fault.
Salam
I think there is no need of giving comments there. We only see and obey what Allah has said in Holy Quran and Hazrat Muhammad S.A.W. has said in Hadith.
We are saying abt the image of Islam but what Allah has said in Holy Quran, Surah-Al-Maeda which meant;
“The honour of any person is in the hand of ALLAH the Almighty”
We are saying abt that no muslim can revolt against his Ruler:
Can anyone tell me why Hazrat Imam Ahmed bin Hanmbal has denied that Govt.? Why he says that Holy Quran is not a creature of Allah but His Book?
Why Sheikh-ul-Islam Hazrat Muhammad bin Wahab was beaten by all people even in every village?
In all times many Ulema-e-Islam was become the part of govt. but only few Ulema-e-Haq pointed out any wrong policy of Govt.
If we see in our History under the saying of Allah and His Prophet Peace be upon Him, every Ulema-e-Haq who has said against the Govt. has got severe punishments from Govt. and People said them as Rebellions in all time.
Thats why Hazrat Muhammad S.A.W. said(Which Meant), “To Obey Islam is the most difficult thing in the world near Qyamah”.
If anyone of you have studied the history of Muslims we come to know every person of MUSLIM STATE has the right to say and guide his Ruler abt the true teaching of Islam. Even Hazrat UMER-bin-KHATTAB (RA) had guided Hazrat ABU BAKKAR (RA) in case of punishment of Thief. A simple person had Guide Hazrat AMEER MA’AVIAH abt Jihad against Rome.
Hazrat MUHAMMAD S.A.W. has said “He is not Muslim who consider my Ulema-e-Deen as poor”.
Today all the predictions of Hazrat MUHAMMAD(S.A.W.) abt Qyamah is almost complete.
First we have to obey Islam first then anyone else.
The person who quote the Ayat of Sura-e-Nisa:
“Obey your Hakims”
If we see the context of this Ayat, we come to know many persons come in this term of Hakims e.g. Ulema, Rulers, Parents etc. But (Sorry) many People donot know the Main Hakim is ALLAH the Almighty. From this Ayat we have to follow the Principles of Islam not principles of any Christian Constitution.
The Persons who said, “We got bad Image of Islam”. For those I only say we have to see our History, Hazrat Abbu Bakkar(RA) have said, “Allah and His creatures disrespect the nations who Denies Jihad”. Hazrat Muhammad(S.A.W.) have said, “If you want success and want to Rule the Whole World, the only simple key is to Obey Allah the Almighty and Me (La Ilaha Illa ALLAH Muhammad ar Rasulullah)”.
For those Fundamentalists and extremists persons, Allah the Almighty says,
“Follow each and every principle of Islam”
In the Last I only want to quote only one Ayat of Sura-Al-Imran, (Ayat no. 144, which meant)
“If Hazrat Muhammad(S.A.W.) is died or slain, you will stop following Islam. The one who did this will never Harm Allah”.
If you want to become a GOOD MUSLIM OF BEST IMAGE, You have to Follow Islam completely.
Take Care and Obey Allah the Almighty,
Allah Hafiz.
Fi Amaanillah
From Muslim Brother and Student of Islam
Muhammad Saifullah Siddiqui
u all are right . i think both were responsible for lal masjid tragedy equally. 1st of all Islam has never taught us to take innocent people’s lives. Islam is the religion of Love, peace and not sucide bomb attacks and forcing people to follow the religion. Our Prophet Muhammad (S.A.W) never forced anyone to accept Islam rather his good deeds, his actions made people to accept Islam. Our deeds and actions should be good in order to spread Islam. Thats the time to educate people, tell them about Islam ,ISlam is not terrorism. the best exapmle is that when you stop a child from using internet at home, he will never stop, he will use internet may be at some internet cafe or friend’s home. so we dont have to stop him from using internet rather we should tell him what is bad for him, educate. These extremest dont understand that nobody can impose any thing on humans through force.
ALL TRUE MUSLIMS AND PAKISTANIS HATE MUSHARRAF (HE IS WROST THAN A PIG)
Cruel Dictator Musharraf is a killer of thousands of innocent people in all over Pakistan. He just loves his Seat and Dress not even USA. He should die and should be HANGED TO DEATH like he has done in the case of Karachi, Peshawar, Waziristan and Islamabad attacks. We all Muslims pray that may his son be killed by any one, so that he may realize WHAT IS THE PAIN.
Muslims of Red Mosque were not bad; he made them and forced them to be against him and his hunting dogs. He also kidnapped a student of Karachi University (who is still missing), who slapped on Dictator Musharraf’s face in a Student Convention 2006 held in Islamabad, Pakistan. Watch this video and get it translated in English: (Musharraf thrilled by student Part 1)
The main reason why Moulana Abdul Rasheed Ghazi (Shaheed) was that he knew the truth about Mushy and his policies to destroy Muslims and their Holy Book ‘Quran’. His dogs also insulted the innocent girls and women, who came out of the Red Mosque. (CNN Video, Pakistan: The threat within). His army also shot on the parents of students who were going into the Honorable Jamia Hafsa to take their children.
WE ALL LOVE HAZRAT MOULANA ABDUL RASHEED GHAZI-SHAHEED (REHMAT.ULLAH.ILLAH) AND MUSHY’S ARMY MEN WERE KILLED, AND INSHAH ALLAH HE WILL BE KILLED ALSO SOON BY THE GRACE OF ALMIGHTY ALLAH. AAMIN
ISLAM KI FITRUT MAIN QUDRUT NAY LUCHAK DI HAI…..ITNA HI YEH UBHRAY GA JITNA KEH MITAOO GAY. AL-JIHAAD AL-JIHAAD
Well done Musharraf. Please do the same against all those who are trying to spread Islam with force instead of attitude. These are the people who are spoiling the our religion and name of our beloved country.
Qamber Ali,
You observations contradict the prophets words and the Quran.
Muslim relates on the authority of Abu Sa`id (radhiallahu `anhu) that the Prophet sallallahu `alayhi wa sallam said, “Whoever sees something evil should change it with his hand. If he cannot, then with his tongue; and if he cannot do even that, then in his heart. That is the weakest degree of faith.”
He also relates on the authority of Ibn Mas`ud that the Prophet (sallallahu `alayhi wa sallam) said, “There was not a single Prophet among those who were sent before me who did not have apostles and companions and followed his Sunna and obeyed his commands. But afterwards other generations came whose words belied their deeds, and whose deeds were not in accordance with what they commanded others to do. Whoever struggles against the with his hand is a believer. Whoever struggles against them with his tongue is a believer. And whoever struggles against them with his heart is a believer. But when none of these things are done, then not a single mustard’s seed weight of faith is present.”
mr qamber ali,
we all r muslims Allhamdulillah, and being a muslim we should first peep into our ownseleves. u called musharaf a pig and his men dogs. dont u think that Allah forbids us from using abusive language. as far as i knw u r calling one muslim a pig.i knw tat u were ghazi rasheed’s admirer. im not with musharaf nor with his govt. but i didnt like the way u said wrong about our pak army. why dont we all understand one thing…our army has no fault, they r only folowing the orders. to tell u the truth i knw so many army personals which really dont like all this. you cant even think through which emotional turmoil our army must b going through. its always hard to kill someone and specially knowing that the person opposing you a also a muslim brother. itsnot an easy task. For Allah’s sake put ur selves into army’s shoes. And last but not the least our Prophet Muhammad S.A.W taught us that muslims the words they speak and deeds they do should alway be good. He S.A.W taught us to rectify such situations with peace and love.
Salam
Definition of Muslim by Quran :
“Those who hear the orders of Allah and his Prophet Muhammad (SAW) and implement it without any hasitation r true Muslims”
History repeats itself.
Only few person knows that a Muslim Ruler had attacked HOLY KA’ABA in 73 Hijra.
Do u know who was that.
He was HAJJAJ bin YOUSUF. In that attack the Sahabi-e-Rasul was killed. This was Hazrat Abdullah bin Zubair(RA). His death body was hanged for 7 days after the attack. In that attack (nowadays operation), Hazrat Abdullah bin Zubair get shelter inside the Holy Kaaba. His mother was the daughter of Hazrat Abbu Bakkar(RA) and sister of Ummul-Mo’mineen hazrat Ayesha(RA), Hazrat Asma (RA) also gave courage to Hazrat Ibn-e-Zubair to do so.
If we belief that Lal Masjid Ulema do the wrong thing against criminal rulers and if we abuse the Lal Masjid Ulema especially Maulana Abdul Aziz, Maulana Abdur Rasheed Ghazi, their Mother and Umm-e-Hassaan and admire Mr. Musharraf then who will tell me
WHY WE DONOT ADMIRE MR. HAJJAJ BIN YOUSUF AND ABUSE HAZRAT ABDULLAH BIN ZUBAIR AND HAZRAT ASMA.
They also do the wrong thing. We can say that they have challenged the Power of Government and forced Government to attack KA’ABA. WHY?
It is because we know that they want Islam and Rules of Allah.
I also want to quote a simple example. if a thief come in ur street and u have capture the thief red-handed then tell me R U HAVE CHALLENGED THE POWER OF STATE.
No u have helped the Govt to implement the Rule of Allah.
If lake is present some where. the person who have some vessel or pot to store the water is intelligent and he will use that water and get success in future. and the person who do not have something to store the water will not use that water.
Same is the case with Islam if u donot implement Islam on people then Society get damage and spoiled.
I want to quote a Hadith :
Our Prophet Hazrat Muhammad (SAW) has said, “If there r 2 floors in a Ship. A person who r at lowered floor wants water and belief that he will get more water if he make a hole at the base of ship than going to upper floor. If the people of Upper floor do not force him not to do so then both will vanished and sunk in the sea.”
If Lal Masjid People not forced the Govt. to stop the brothel of Aunti Shamim and other such Masaj centers then we got Azab of Allah.
If we belief in Allah and Our Prophet Hazrat Muhammad (SAW), and the most important that if belief that whatever they have said is the truth then,
Today we have to beg our apology from Allah because we have killed atleast 3000 persons. If we not do so, We have the Examples of the Great and Powerful Nations who was vanished by Allah by his Azab on them and Our future will be same like that.
Hazrat Muhammad (SAW) has said, “The Qyamat was not held yet there is not remain a single muslim on this earth”
Hazrat Muhammad (SAW) said, “The person who abuse my SAHABI, he have abused me; who he have abused me, he have actually abused Allah”
Why we r abusing Our Holy Prophet by abusing his Sahabi; and why we r abusing the persons who implement the teaching of Great ISLAM.
Think upon it.
If we r doing so then the anger of Allah is near and we will be the most worst nation of the world who make Allah Angry.
For the above I want to quote the saying of Mr. Musharraf:
“I am seeing Light far away!!!”
Now I want to make some ammendment in above saying if we are abusing Allah and deny the teachings of Islam:
“I am seeing Light far away, Its actually a great FIRE which is waiting for this nation”
Take Care and Obey Allah the Almighty,
Allah Hafiz.
Fi Amaanillah
From Muslim Brother and Student of Islam
Muhammad Saifullah Siddiqui
saif.saf@hotmail.com
Mr.Kaka manah, very good. Do you know that most BEGHERAT than Pervaiz Musharraf has not born till now, nor will be born and no one can allow to born.
ZAIRA, Why are you liking the action taken by PERVAIZ MUSHARAF. Are you with muslims or non-muslims.If action of this kind would be taken against your home and your family, what will be your comments.Keep in mind that you are also responsible to ALLAH.
Mr.Waseem
What are you bakwasing, It Hadith do not means that you are saying.
Lanat hay tum par and Pervaziz Musharraf par.
do you know that Pervaiz Musharraf is enemy of Pakistan and Islam, he is agent of Non-Muslims Rulers of the world
yes you have put some meaning to that hadith u have weitten.well i have a question for u …..how come hazarat Imam Hussain (MAPH) knowing this hadith fought against Yaziid ( the ruler ). and if he had done wrong then why so love for him(MAPH).
well
again after the Karbla Incident why Hazarat Abdullah Bin Zubair (MABPH) fought against Hajaj Bin Yousaf who was sent by another caliph( a good one).
i think this is quite difficult to understand
the thing is that it is question of “Immaaan”
i have a less powerful Immaaan and i can tolerate some bad thing happening to an innocent soul in my neighbourhood….but their imaaan was so powerful that they would not tolerate a single thing like telling a lie around them …..
so that answers your question and one request to all paksitan
Please pakistanis ….dont make up ur own islam by misunderstanding what ever new comes to your knowledge..
Dont judge any body with your limited knowledge ….Allah has the knowledge and he knows who did what for whom ……
Assalamualaikum !
I am so dejected by the most of comments in which we are using abusive language and then mentioning some religious statements. Is not this a contrast or contradiction or it has become our habit to use those words at same time. We must be carefull. And remarkably a good effort by teeth maestro regarding the facts of operation silence.
everybidy is blammig mushii.. dere a hadith which means the pople of the country wil be having the ruler as they ll behave. i think it justifies all what v say and we do ironically!!!!!!!
ok just think of reciprocal of mushii
1- nawaz sharif ……….. better than banazir but still corrupt
2- bynazir bhutto……. 2 currpt.. she just come to pak to rule n den go away
3- Altaf MQM … a traitor
4- Imran khan…. somwhow yes .. but he still has to learn more
5-MMA… to currpt exploiting islam..
6——— so wats the option six
HIZB_UT_TARIR is the sixth option for sure which you can trust. becouse khilafah is the only solution of all our problems and the only alternative the world have…..
Do search about khilafah and HT and you will come to know this….
Allah Haiz
it was the responsibility of govt of pakistan to provide a fulltoos security to shaheed banzir butto.musharraf killd banazir and he should be killd because he is libel for the death of benazir.
Assalamualaikum !
thier is a one man show in pakistan…no one can even resist musharruf..he`s not patriot nor a muslim….!!
he rejected the independent judicary..by showing not a patriot…and showing that he`s not a muslim by killing younger muslims in lal mosque..!
he should b hanged !!
near minar-e-pakistan.
from magzine
Wifaq Times
editor.
Dear Sir/Madam,
Democracy as a system of governance and interest representation demands respect
for dissent and opposition. It recognizes the principle of majority rule and guarantees, protection of minorities. Democracy also builds faith in electoral contestation to gain public office and gives legitimacy to political parties as primary instruments for acquisition and transfer of power from one set of individuals to another, however the internal blame culture is to promote the possible benefit for the concerned party only it has no concern with the right of deprived people of Pakistan.
Since the creation of Pakistan the Pakistani people are left at distant from the corridor of power, so that the ruling elite can do what they wanted to do in favor of their interest, leaving the Pakistani people at the mercy of circumstances. As this policy is denial of right of Pakistani people to rule their country according to their aspiration and desire to built this country, which can provide equal opportunity to all without any discrimination for the establishment of welfare society. Instead the people were divided in to muhajir, Sindhi, Punjabi, pukhtun and Baloch. Only the society base on tolerance, equality and justice can be the real guarantee for the prosperous and strong Pakistan there for your intention is invited to the crucial movement which could be the point of distraction or disaster. Many innocent people are dying every day-week and every month. Because of bombast, suicide attacks and target killing in Pakistan the factual condition is that nothing happened in this world without any reason, the need of the time is to redress the grievances of the people and eliminate the reason.
The right way to reverence to Martyr is to eliminate the causes after the incidents. If we can redress the route cause after the suicide killing, we can save many lives in future. The only way out is the change of system the route cause of all kind of grievances, the time is to empower the Pakistani at grass route level to eliminate the socio-political injustice and strengthen the unity within the society at large, and closing the door for outsiders or intruder to penetrate in our society because of social unrest.
Unfortunately, despite the significance of the democratic elements, only the power full elite are fitted in power and Pakistani are always left at the mercy of circumstances again and again… As this policy is denial of right of Pakistani people to rule their country according to their aspiration and desire to built this country, which can provide equal opportunity to all without any discrimination for the establishment of welfare society. Only the society based on tolerance, equality and justice can be the real guarantee for real peace and progress in the society. Therefore, Change of socio-political system is inevitable to empower the Pakistani at grass route level for rapid industrial and agriculture development.
Ilyas khan Baloch
Assalaam-U-Alaikum
Musharraf (enemy of Islam) Allah has to ask him about the incident of Jamia Hifsa and Lal Masjid, and he has no answer about all this which he has done. He is same like Firoan, Allah Hidayat ata farmaye Musharraf ko aur us kay kameenay sathiaon ko.
in my opinon that was total disgasting muslim never can do this but when we see this types of thing we shame to be a pakistani it is not good,if public will do every thing then i think we have to closed the all police station this is totayl un-humanty does islam teach us? is any one try to know why they are doing this? may they have to marry their sister or they have to cured thier mother but why will try to know. now we are used to these types of thing,
pakistan kind nation hahahahah
You All Seem To Be Forgetting [ The Supporters Of The military ] That These People Where maliciously attacked and burnt TO DEATh because they defied an American curfew. And Were Trying To Protest The Re Opening Of A SCHOOL!
Now what right was given to the military to shoot and torture ‘innocent’(and when i say innocent i mean that the protesters were armed with rocks) civillians?
Not Only adults were viciosly murdered, but also children.
The Situation could have been avoidable. Rubber Bullets, Tear Gas, Less harmful Tactics COULd have been Used.
F… AMERICA!
F… THE MILTARY!
I just read there were 24 Pakistani soldiers killed in a suicide attack…hhhhhhhhh…
A$$ hole Musharraf turned Pakistan into Iraq. May he and his gang be cursed in this life and hereafter, Ameeen.