Salman Ahmed speaks out against MQM

Wah! Kia baat hai! Does he have this Midas-esque touch that anyone who tries to approach him, dies…! Think. Good you shared the letter with all of us.

wao - nice post really

MQM is a terrorist organization with its thugs let loose on the rampage in Karachi. MQM has destroyed the city of Karachi. Businesses have left Karachi and gone to Lahore because of the thuggery of MQM. They take “jagga tax” from businesses. Anyone who refuses pay is murdered or beaten up (depending on what’s at stake).

Factsheet on MQM

http://www.fas.org/irp/world/para/docs/mqm_factsheet.htm

could anyony tell me the source of this news? any newspaper or tv or radio link? please

Ali - I have verified that this is indeed an email sent by Salman Ahmed specifically for public distribution. I don’t know about Newspaper / Radio / TV verifiability but this has indeed originated from his email account and was also fully distributed through out his mailing list.

I know Salman personally enough (through a friend) when he was in Karachi that he was quite vocal against the MQM, and the contents are not surprising to me and neither to any of his close aides and friends to doubt the originality of this email

thanks for sharing this letter with us doc.the mqm can really stoop so low to get what it wants.

Some at the forum or blogs i got impression that MQM followers think that we are blaming MQM because of media. Pal, I born &lived in Karachi for more than 2 decade. And to decide what MQM really meant for I don’t need any media . I know it for sure that MQM is a less of political party and more of Mafia and Gangsters.

Few of the TV channels are supporting MQM. So, should we not listen to them also? Media reported that 1 out of 500 terrorist attacks in Europe in the span on 2006 was done by a muslim. Should we not accept this too? The fact is you will get both true and false, you will listen both what you want to listen and what you don’t. Its a personal understanding which would work. In case of Iraq, Iraqis don’t have to rely on media, they whats happening better. And in case of Karachi, Karachitese don’t have to rely on media, We have seen what happened in karachi.
Comeon guys we all knw who is behind the 5/12 massacre,its time to think above ethinic background & no more blood of any Muslim Pakistani to be spilled on the streets of Karachi, else we shall witness a day that will be more devastating(God forbid) than the 8th of October, 2005.
May Allah protect us from idiot politican & greedy and corrupt Army generals.Ameen

We’ll Salman atleast you dared to speak up but by writing this open letter what actually you want to prove. Kahin tum bhi behti ganga main to hath nahi dho rahay. Why, in past, did you not reveal the attrocities committed against you by those GOONS. I ain’t saying that your letter is untrue but you are just playing with the flow of time.

A related news item reported here http://www.newkerala.com/news5.php?action=fullnews&id=33834

I wouldn’t be surprised if he was forced to perform.

I’m glad that more people are now speaking up. I don’t see any hope, though.

Earlier people were killed for speaking up against ‘Qaid‘
…
Qaid ka jo ghaddar ahi woh maut kaa haqdaar hai

I don’t see Imran’s case having any effect, its like complaining to the PIMP about the WHORE.

you can see the related news (to verify its authenticity) at http://newspostindia.com/report-1619
and http://www.indiaenews.com/pakistan/20070530/54015.htm
and local news site
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2007%5C05%5C30%5Cstory_30-5-2007_pg7_2

Excellent… yet more proof of MQM terrorism… It’s amusing and pitiful at the same time, to see MQM activists trying to excuse Altaf’s behaviour.

Oh, and I will be posting this on my own blog too… Spread this as far as I can.

Teeth Maestro I am not sure you really belongs to Karachi or not, but I am sure about one thing that your words resembles the same mentality of Punjabi Establishment that have been unjustly ruling the country. Your hatred against MQM does not base on principles but it is based on ethnic background even if you claim to be karachites. You are biggest opinionated/prejudice person.

Altaf Husain is an outspoken intellectual leader who has always delivered meaningful messages. His analysis’s and analogies are always factual and simple so even a normal person can easily understands the essence of his message. Altaf Husain leadership is certainly not common in Pakistan that is why you see resistance against him because change is always resisted universally.

You and your friend Salman Ahmed bashing MQM because you all see MQM as a biggest hurdle in your way to create a society that would not have any morals and values. Moreover I did not think, Slaman Ahmed was so politically well informed where he is sympathizing with Late Azeem Tariq and denouncing Khalid bin Walid that makes me to believe that even if this letter written by him but it was drafted by someone.

Syed M Raza: You said “Your hatred against MQM does not base on principles but it is based on ethnic background”. This is basically a self defeating arguement as one can say you are supporting MQM because of a particular ethnic background. So, the same arguement can be used against you. The fact is that ordinary Karachiites, many of whom do not have even a remotest link to any Punjabi town, speak out against MQM and their ‘bhatta’ receiving practise from ordinary shop keepers and other atrocities. Now, you should stop and think for a while, there can be 2 possibilities.
No.1: Everyone, even the most ordinary non-Mohajir Pakistani, is against MQM as they do not want a change for good in the Pakistani society, or
No.2: There is some truth in the allegations against MQM after all.
Think about it with a cool head and then ask yourself.

@Syed Raza
“Altaf Husain is an outspoken intellectual leader”

LOL - This statement has made my day. Thank you for sharing your intellectual out cry, do come again…

For comments on post click the link below

http://pakspectator.blogspot.com/2007/05/salman-ahmed-speaks-out-against-mqm.html

For Altaf Lovers….

Did you hear Altaf speech when Azeem Ahmed Tariq was murdered?

I heared it , first hand. All I got out of the speech was some cover up.
I wouldn’t have listened to him, if I was a Jamateee or what ever you want to call.

Go on, call every one, agency , Haqiqi, jamatee, etc etc……

I can’t take any more of the emotional blackmailing. I denounce him and his gang.

hi dear, u know y, out of heaps of artist only salam cried against MQM, its just coz he is punjabi hmm so at this point all punjabis and pathans BAHTI GANGA MAIN HAATH DOH RAHAY HAIN hmmm lol , did u get my frined?

Dont ever think MQM will finish, we all r with them, baby hahahh

Mr. NKK, the argument cannot be used against me because I support MQM for its ideology of Middle Class Order, to alleviate feudalism from the society and to stop religious fanaticism and sectarian extremism. Even from its beginning MQM has asked to distribute the rights equally for everyone in the country based on fairness. In other words, provide rights to everyone as per their share in the country. I think once these policies are implemented you will have a united and one Pakistan. Also I would like to elaborate a term that I used “Punjabi Establishment� by that I mean those who were involved in murdering Late Liquat Ali Khan, creating Bangladesh, and used Army to impose martial laws on their will to gain political advantages for their personal agendas.

In Allah’s eye, everyone is equal no matter if he/she is Mohajir, Punjabi, Pathan, or what have you. On one has the right to discriminate against any group and that is Altaf Husain who has explained and made it easy for me to understand.

For you Teeth Maestro, It is good to laugh. However, it was not an outcry, it was simple statement made by me which had both object and subject but for someone who has been raped of his intellect by “Punjabi Establishment� it was an outcry. You are good buddy!

[...] is a Question and Answer response by Salman Ahmad in light of his recent email where he shared his ongoing problems with the MQM reign of [...]

@Syed M Raza: Believe me, most of the people who oppose MQM also do that because of an ideology, that politics should not be left to murderers and black mailers. Please don’t mislead yourself into believing that Punjabis love the Chaudhries of Gujrat or other thug punjabi politicians. Most sensible people I know detest a Punjabi Zia-ul-Haq as much as they do a Mohajir Pervaiz Musharraf. In my humble opinion, ideologies based on ethnicity does not bring any good in the long run. You are entitled to your opinion, of course.

its now time to take a revolutionary action against these terrors. i have never seen a single person in my life that supports altaf hussain and i bet anyone of you wouldnt have seen so.
so lets join hands together with imran khan to seize the terror regime to an end.
may Allah protect our nation.

There is no doubt that the MQM is the terrorist political party..
Their Qaid is split personality alway infornt of the thing which opposes the Islam i think those people who are favorinnng that thug party have forgoten that time wheen these bloody people made karachi no go area when seeing the (BOORI BUND LASH) was routine for the karachities as soon as they get into the government,,, where are those killings

i hate MQM i slam MQM God destory MQM GOd destory that son of a bitch Altaf Hussain this is for those whose for punjabi mentality we have migerated from india but i m with truth

:)it seems eveybody isafter MQM after 12 may where the part was a vicitim itself.ANP,pp came prepared with heavy weapons to sabotage MQM and karachi’s reputation and now all those who had grudges against MQM are coming forward.I pity these ppl.

@decentgal: Everyone is after MQM because they are in power, and they are to be held directly responsible for the bloodshed that took place on May 12. MQM is in the National Govt, Provincial Govt, and City Govt and people have a right to ask them who made those stupid decisions of blocking the roads and not mobilizing the police and the rangers. Don’t you think it all looked pre-planned?

decentgal.. how was MQM the victim on May 12th?

Here’s an analogy… A few dacoits enter a house and start firing on the occupants inside. Occupants are armed also (as they live in a dangerous area) and they fire back. In the ensuing firing, most occupants and only 1 dacoit is killed. The dacoit party goes to the court and claims it is not repsonsible for the violence because one of its own dacoit was also killed and hence it was a victim itself. If the above makes sense to you then I guess MQM is “innocent”

how can you all guess MQM started it ?:)see there comes your presumptions ?you all are jusified blaming the government which comes under MQM part but i dont buy as if MQM does nothing but terrorism and somebody gave a bogus analogy also as if every other party only responded to MQM terrorism.You saw biased reporting on AAJ and geo and you didnt trust what MQM showed?then you have a particular mindset.how come every body was so heavily armed if they all are innocent in comparison to MQM.Why there was firing on MQM rally where everybody was trying to get together for a cause.for the last 5 years MQM has been very very careful to build an image.they want to do better.Karachi is its base.you dont accept the development in karachi but you must have read (plz do so now)that karachi is included in the top 10 cities showing potential for development and it happened recently .Well i m not here to argue with anybody because i m not a die hard fan of any party but the undue bashing needed response so i came .in. plz dont qoute me anymore.

decentgal… first of all, if you don’t like to be quoted then there’s an easy solution.. stop posting comments. Don’t expect to give your point of view on a public forum and then expect people to remain quiet.

How can one blame the government and not MQM? MQM is the major part of government in Sindh!

And of course everyone from Aaj to Geo to ARY to Imran Khan to most newspaper columnists (including Ayaz Amir who witnessed violence personally on May 12)to eye-witnesses in various blogs over the net are lying. The only unbiased gospel truth is the one being shown in MQM press conferences.

If MQM’s actions before and on May 12 (having their rally on the same day as CJ, declaring “Karachi hamara hai, Pakistan sub ka hai laykin Karachi hamra hai”, blocking Shara-e-Faisal with trucks/containers, disarming police/rangers, firing from atop fly overs on opposition rallies trying to reach the airport) are not enough to convince you who was responsible for all this mayhem, then nothing ever will.

Ayaz Amir’s latest column in Dawn:

Aik dhakka aur, one push more

By Ayaz Amir

THE army is worried that it is being maligned in the current agitation. It should be worried. Slogans raised against it have never been heard in Punjab, the army’s heartland, before. Gen Musharraf addressed the officers of the Jhelum garrison on Wednesday. From the newspaper pictures available, the assembled officers, especially the senior-most in the front row, looked pretty glum. What was on their minds?

But who is bringing the army into disrepute? Lawyers, columnists, street riff-raff or the army itself? When the army involves itself in politics, when its chief wants to stick to power regardless of the consequences, when he patronises an organisation such as the MQM, the army, willy-nilly, comes into the firing line of public opinion.

Lawyers are not bringing a bad name to the army. The army high command is. What does the nation want? What is the cry coming from the depths of its soul? The supremacy of the law and the Constitution. The army will earn respect to the extent it remains faithful to its charter of defending the nation’s frontiers. It will lose it when it loses its way.

For 60 years the nation has fed and sustained the army not to fight New Zealand, Uzbekistan or the Republic of South Africa but to stand up to Indian hegemony. This army-led government has grovelled before India. What is then left of its raison d’etre?

But the central issue in this agitation is somewhat different: nothing less than the country’s future. As Fakhruddin G. Ebrahim has pithily put it before the Supreme Court, “Time has come to say goodbye to the gun, and if not, then say goodbye to the Constitution.� The gun or the Constitution, once and for all let this be decided. What is Pakistan to be –– a banana republic or a self-respecting democracy? Who is to exercise sovereignty in it –– Parliament or Triple One Brigade?

Two dates will stand out in our history: March 9 when Chief Justice Iftikhar Mohammad Chaudhry stood up to military diktat, thereby setting in motion the chain of events which constitute the present movement; May 12 when the emperor appeared without his clothes, the spiritual kinship between him and the MQM revealed to the naked eye.

But even dark clouds have silver linings and the silver lining in the present situation is that Karachi’s dominant party took a step too far on May 12, over-reaching itself and thus inviting a bitter backlash and now retribution.

On the morning of May 12 I was at the Tibet Centre where the MQM was holding its so-called rally, standing next to Nasreen Jalil, Karachi’s deputy mayor, and Babar Khan Ghouri, MQM federal minister. Having witnessed how the MQM had barricaded the entire city—no one needing binoculars to see what was going on—I told them that they were not realising the consequences of what they were was up to (and this was before word had come that people were being killed). Nasreen represents the more moderate, presentable face of the MQM. I told her that when evening came, as it surely would, the responsibility of the day’s events would rest on the MQM’s shoulders.

Know what Ghouri said? That Justice Iftikhar Mohammad Chaudhry had not come to the Quaid’s mazar to offer fateha before, implying that his wanting to come on may 12 was a sign of impending mischief. As if a visa from the MQM was required to enter the city and visit the Quaid’s mazar.

Gen Musharraf has plugged the same line: as Karachi’s dominant party, how could the MQM allow the Chief Justice and his supporters to take out a procession in Karachi because that would have given a wrong impression of the MQM’s popularity? Amazing, and then the army is worried that its image is being maligned.

During the last seven and a half years, now close to eight, only on two occasions has the nation come alive. At the time of the massive earthquake which struck Azad Kashmir and northern Hazara Division in October 2005 when people from across Pakistan held out a hand of assistance to their brothers and sisters in distress. And now during this movement which again proves that this nation is alive.

This movement is like no other in our history. The anti-Ayub agitation of 1968-69 and the anti-Bhutto agitation of 1977 were both vague about their aims and thus easily hijacked by military adventurism. This movement has clear aims: constitutional supremacy and an end to military hegemony.

The political landscape already stands altered, the judiciary more emboldened and the regime put on the defensive. But one ingredient is still missing: a clear, unambiguous stand on the part of the opposition parties. The people of Pakistan know what they want. Lawyers know what they want. But the political parties are either playing games with themselves or living in a world of their own.

At what stage are the Swiss corruption cases against Benazir Bhutto and her husband? I for one don’t know. But because of them or some other reason she is dallying with Musharraf. At least that is the impression her statements and interviews give. Maybe she is just trying to extract concessions and won’t do a deal. But her ambiguity is confusing her supporters who are left in two minds about what to do.

She says her party will not vote for Musharraf. This is not good enough. If Musharraf insists on the charade of getting ‘elected’ by these assemblies, will the PPP legislators resign? We are hearing nothing clear-cut on this score.

Also a picture of confusion is the MMA. Qazi Hussain Ahmed professes a hard line but the Jamaat-i-Islami has yet to throw itself fully into this movement. As for Maulana Fazlur Rahman, he remains the undisputed champion of double-talk, saying one thing, doing another, his ambivalence fuelling suspicion that he remains a secret weapon of Gen Musharraf’s. He too is yet to say that the MMA will resign from the assemblies in case Musharraf seeks a rubber stamp from them.

Insofar as this is a time of standing up and being counted, ambiguity is akin to sabotage and betrayal. When events move fast, they wait for no one and spare no one. Look at Musharraf whose many slips during this season of discontent have branded him an MQM supporter. He can wash himself in holy water but this label won’t easily wash. As the charge of betrayal wouldn’t easily wash in the case of Benazir Bhutto and Maulana Fazlur Rahman if they waste any more time clarifying their real position.

Nawaz Sharif says, nothing doing with Musharraf. But what good is this clarity if he remains holed up in London, playing Khomeini-in-waiting on some of the plushest sofas money can buy? Why isn’t he coming back? Is a forced return to Saudi Arabia the spectre haunting him? Whatever the case, his absence from the scene prevents the PML-N from being fully galvanised. The iron is hot but will bend only before those who strike it.

Imran’s is a lone voice in the wilderness, still a shepherd without much of a flock. But he should be grateful to the MQM for giving him the kind of publicity that money can’t buy. The ban on his entering Sindh has done him good as has the MQM’s poster and placard campaign (since hastily called off) calling him names and lambasting him for ‘promiscuity’. Since when did a charge of promiscuity hurt a man? Whom the gods would destroy they first make ridiculous. The MQM has been painting itself in the colours of ridicule.

Anyway, the political parties are lagging behind the rest of the nation. The leading light of this struggle is My Lord the Chief Justice, no doubt about it. With him stand, in the van of this movement, the nation’s lawyers, united and determined like never before, sustaining the struggle for democracy and lifting the nation’s spirits. In the process a new iconography is being born –– the nation’s new heroes the likes of Ali Ahmed Kurd (more power to his fiery oratory), Munir A. Malik, Aitzaz Ahsan et al, and justices of the different high courts who have lit the way for the rest of the judiciary to follow.

The media has produced its own heroes –– reporters and anchorpersons, who have brought not only the drama and excitement of this struggle into living rooms across the country, but also its meaning and significance. This is the first tele-movement in the country’s history, its impact such that entertainment programmes have had to yield place to judicial and political news. When the CJ goes to address a bar association, the nation, glued to its TV sets, travels with him.

But the political parties, victims of confusion or expediency, lag behind. They still have a role to play but only if they can bring themselves to adopting a clear, unambiguous stand regarding Musharraf’s ‘reelection’. And to be of any use, they must do this now, in the next 20-30 days, rather than wait for Sep/Oct when it might already be too late.

Are the assorted maulanas whom it has been our misfortune to endure, and those who lay claim to the mantle of the East, capable of this? We shall see.

http://www.dawn.com/weekly/ayaz/ayaz.htm

naeem plz read carefully before commenting on me i said government comes under MQM.You are too quick to reply and deduce from it .

“you all are jusified blaming the government which comes under MQM party but i dont buy as if MQM does nothing but terrorism and somebody gave a bogus analogy also as if every other party only responded to MQM terrorism”

the above is my qoute .

Ayaz Mir isthe one columnist who was in the rally and never once he commented on MQM rally s strength he stood there and didnt have a single word to talk about the rally ?what kind of journalist is he? You read only one of his articles i can try qoute many where he mentions MQM strenght but always in negative.

There is Hamid mir also who is neutral ,all will agree and read what does he say about 12 may in daily jang so the debate may continue.
http://www.jang.com.pk/jang/may2007-daily/17-05-2007/col2.htm

decentgal… I will go through Hamid Mir’s article and then get back with my comments later.

I appreciate the civilized manner in which this debate is continuing. Most debates on the internet turn into a mess after a while but I’m sure this one won’t. Thanks.

tundi-e-baad-e-mukhalif sey na ghabra aey uqaab,
yeh to chalti hai tujhey ooncha uranay key liye.

bohat chootiya ho gaya hai salman… sahi sher bhi nahin aata.

Salams. I am a Moslem, a Pakistani, & a Karachiite.
What happened on May 12 is the responsibility of the Government of the time. It was a failure on the part of the ruling party (MQM). They should have resigned.
But don’t be misled by opportunists like Imran, Salman, Aitzaz, Asfandyar or Nawaz. The outcry by these individuals shows the division in the country. All of them have one thing in common, they are not Karachiites. They have declared “May 12″ as the “Black Saturday”, “Worst day in the history of Pakistan”, “dangerous for the country”, “Turning Point” etc.
My questions are:

1. Where were they when 32-people were massacred in Sajda in Imambargah Ali Raza?
2. Where were they when 40-people were massacred in Hyderi Masjid while performing Sajda?
3. Where were they when doctors and professionals from a particular sect were being killed in Karachi?
4. Where were they when 40-people praising the Holy Prophet (PBUH) were massacred in Nishtar Park?
5. Did they visit the victims’ families?
6. Did they attend any of the Namaz-e-Janaza?
7. Did they argue for compensation for the victims?
8. Did Imran say he would file a case against the terrorist Jihadi Leaders? (In fact he supports the terrorists of Wana & Waziristan who have proven links with Karachi Blasts).
9. Nobody declared these events as “tragedyâ€Â?,â€Â? black days” etc.
10. They just issued diplomatic political statements (only some of them).

· MQM was present in all the janazas (except Nishtar Park victims due to a dispute with ST). ST, itself, has never accused MQM of involvement in the Nishtar Park blast.
· MQM openly condemned the bloody jihadis and their patrons in NWFP & Punjab.
· MQM argued for compensation for the victims.
· MQM protects mosques by deploying their activists there during holy months.
· MQM was part of the mourning for these victims.

That is why people of Karachi always vote for MQM, because your own family is more important than anyone else. If the above named leaders do not condemn those who threaten our families in mosques and other religious congregations we will never support them!
MQM is one party, which has always promoted sectarian harmony for which it should be credited.
MQM is also responsible for the current phase of development in Karachi.
Nobody’s perfect, but we should not single out any one ethnic community or people of a city for terrorism. We should read history objectively and then give our conclusions.
No offence is meant to any religious or ethnic group.
Before criticizing this article please do some research on the sectarian conflict in Pakistan, the attacks, murders, protest demonstrations, arrests of religious terrorists, their ethnic backgrounds, ethnic background of the identified suicide bombers and the proud admission of murders in the courts by religious fanatics. All of this can be found in the archives of:

Dawn
Daily Times
Friday Times
The News
Herald
Newsline

i appreciate salman,,for a courageous stance,,and i wish him to be a loyal follower of THE PROPHET (PBUH)

DO YOU REALLY WANT TO HURT MQM/ALTAF?
Please go to
http://www.mipt.org/

This is a US Homeland Security affiliated organization that has already listed MQM as a terrorist outfit. They also collect data on all incidents, criminal cases and their outcomes as a way of maintaining data on each organization and moving it up the ranks of danger. All Pakistanis are requested to please engage this site and make sure they have more than enough data to support the truth; that MQM is a terrorist outfit and Altaf must go!. Take a moment to do this and lets try to hit them where it hurts instead of wasting time arguing with people on the net.

well, mqm was in power on 12th may, so that is why mqm is being blamed what happened in Karachi.

now comes the 11th july why is no body blaming the f***** PML Q .??? for all the bloodshed in Islamabad… why all the blame is on Maulana ???

It is damm true what ever mentioned in Salman’s letter. I, being a Karachiittes, ppeal all of you to take a stand and throw out this Altaf Bhai out of our country. I appreciate what Imran Khan is doing and now these MQM has no answer.

Any one have photograph showing the banner” Quaid ka ghaddar hai….woh maut ka haqdar hai”…. Pl. Send at *********
Thanks

MQM, Nawaz Shareef, Benazir Bhutto all these corrupt organizations and people im sick of them. There is no hope for Pakistan.

I used to admire Altaf Hussain due to his political power. On very short notices, MQM holds large rallies and people in large numbers gather just to listen to Altaf Hussain on phone. Amazing that he has so much following. But at the same time a lot of Karachi people i know, who are mohajirs and doesn’t have any association with any political party, call MQM a terrorist organization. I fail to understand that how a political party with die hard members who are more educated than people in any other part of the country, can be treated as terrorist organization as a whole. So many people cant vote MQM everytime due to fear. If the people who oppose MQM are right, even then, the political support enjoyed by MQM is not an ordinary thing.

Having said that, i have not been able to find answers to the following questions and i would appreciate if any MQM supporter can help me find the truth:
MQM has always been in government either with IJI, PPP, PML(N) and now PML(Q) problems of Sindh Province as a whole and Karachi in particular has only increased.
If Altaf Hussain has so huge public support, then what is he doing in UK since 1992. He relocated to London 6 months prior to start of army operation on 19 June 1992.
Isn’t it inappropriate that you claim to be a Quaid of pakistani people but you at the same time applied and acquired british nationality.
If MQM as an organization has so huge support in Karachi, then it becomes their responsibility to have peace in the city and take appropriate action on the complaints and grievances of other minor parties.
At the end, Karachi or any other part of the country is for all the Pakistanis and not for any punjabis, mohajirs, Pakhtoons etc.
I also differ with the word Mohajir. Non one is now Mohajir after 60 years of independence. You will be labelled Mohajir and will be treated with bias only if you project yourself to be different from other pakistanis.

The major issue or the most important goal of MQM was to provide Muhajir their rights as it is said by most of the Karachiites,whether they are in the party or not.They always say this and they are still saying this.
Now my question is except blood shed and a tag of terrorist on face of MQM,and a declaration from MQM of hatred from all other language groups What MQM has done for Karachiites???
Most of time MQM is in the Government What they have achieved so far????
This is a party made only to fume hatred,destruction,massacre and nothing else.
I am not saying that other parties are very honest. Other parties are also corrupt but they are smart, they are not killing people openly and they not are not killing on basis of language or caste.
OK forget everything, Just tell me what MQM has done for Muahjir’s????

i love mqm H

i love mqm

I understand MQM (Mohajir Qaumi Movement) and Musharraf more than many/any of you.

They are trying to emulate, (copy) Jinnah and the AghaKhanis.

Let me explain:
Agha Khan is the ABSOLUTE leader of the Ismailis.
Jinnah also was the sole leader of the Muslims in the Muslim League.

Both demanded absolute loyalty from their followers, but they deserve based on their character and righteousness of conduct. They dont squander it over petty and frivolous issues.

Living in Karachi, side by side with the Aghakhanis, the Bihari brand of mohajirs thought that if they just copy this aspect of the aghakhanis, they will also become like them.

Alas, they only became fascists because neither Altaf Bhai, nor Pervez Musharraf have the character, honesty, or goodness of Jinnah. I dont know about Aghakhan much but I know Jinnah would never have ordered murders or removal of the best and most honest judges like Mush did.

Thus, this is the essence of the problem. These copy-cats are copying blindly.

What criteria do we have to judge right and wrong!

”Men are tempted by the lure of women and offspring, of hoarded treasures of gold and silver, of splendid horses, cattle and plantations. These are the comforts of this life, but far better is the return to Allah.” [Al-Imran: 14]

Indeed man is motivated by personal gain. Based upon his viewpoint about life and his understanding of his purpose in it, he defines his interests, builds his relationships, adopts criteria by which this will be achieved, and then embarks upon a path in pursuit of contentment and comfort.

Today the affairs of man are regulated by the decadence of the capitalist creed. A creed whose founders looked upon the beauty of creation and only saw an abundance of wealth but disregard the question of its coming to being. A viewpoint about life, that looked at the wonder and perfect organisation of life and placed no importance on the Organiser nor did it credit the perfection of His (swt) organisation of creation. Rather this erroneous doctrine, built on the concept of compromise, that did not seek to confirm the source of creation and what preceded the life of this world and what will come after it, neither did seek clarity in the relationship that existed between them, regarded the question of the Creator as inconsequential in the way they would govern their affairs and His (swt) worship as trivial. And as a natural consequence of this blatant disregard for Allah (swt) and the Hereafter the focus became the worldly life, its temporary comforts and the measure for action became the whims and desires of man, a selfish and corrupt standard, a criteria of benefit.

Certainly why should the one who places no importance on the Day of Reckoning or his Creator adopt a criteria other than benefit when all he lives for is the life of this world? For this is expected of the disbelievers.

However, what is astonishing and terrifying is when the Muslim whose belief is built upon a firm conviction on the undeniable fact of the existence of Allah (swt), the Prophet-hood of Muhammed (saw) and the torment of Jahanam and the reward of Jannah adopts the criteria of benefit that is adopted by those who disbelieve.

”But no, by your Lord, they can have no Faith, until they make you (O Muhammad (saw)) judge in all disputes between them, and find in themselves no resistance against your decisions, and accept (them) with full submission.” [ An-Nisa: 65]

In the above ayah Allah (swt) swears by Himself, the greatest entity know to mankind, and questions the belief of those who do not make Muhammed (saw) and all that he brought (i.e. the Quran and the Sunnah) the judge in their affairs. This is clear evidence that the criteria of the Muslim should be halal and haram and not benefit.

For unlike the kafir the Muslim bases his happiness on the pleasure of Allah (swt) and not gratification of whims and desires. And unlike the kafir the Muslim when he looks at creation says ’subhan Allah’ at how perfect is its organisation and when he commits an act of disobedience he asks Allah (swt) for forgiveness out fear of His (swt) accountability on the Day of Resurrection, for he has realised that his belief in the relationship of the life of this world and what came before it and what will come after can only be manifested in his actions so how can he adopt a criteria of benefit when he will be accounted by Allah (swt).

How can he adopt the criteria of benefit when Allah (swt) has clearly defined our purpose in life as He (swt) remind in the Holy Quran: ”And I (Allah) created not the jinns and humans except that they should worship Me (Alone).” [ Az-Zariyat: 56].

Looking at the above criteria we see that none of our politician or Ruler is fit to rule us because they think that this world is everything and they have forgotten about the hereafter.

We have to adopt this criterion in our life and judge every personality based on this. The problem is that what we do is comparing lesser evil with greater evil and says the person who is lesser evil is good. for example, many people today are comparing Nawaz sharif and Muhtarma Benazir Bhutu sahiba(MBBS) and draw a conclusion that banazir is more corrupt then Nawaz Sharif so we will have to vote for Nawaz Shari. This criteria fundamentality is wrong because we have a TUCH STONE with us (QURAN & SUNNAH) which would tell us who is good and who is bed, and what is good or what bed, in terms of actions.

Above all the problem is not with personalities the basic fault lies in the system of Demon-crazy (Democracy) which gives you a status of God because in Democracy people are the source of legislation and therefore parliament is sovereign. Due to this we have personalities like Altaf Hussain, Bussharraf, Sheer Afghan Niaze, wasee Zafar MBBS, Nawaz Sharif etc.

To deceive the innocent people of Pakistan with the collaboration of the religious parties they have included two articles in the constitution which talks about Islam in a wired way and after that the whole constitution is in contradiction with those two articles. Same two articles are put in by United Snakes of America in the constitution of Iraq and Afghanistan. I hope you know which articles I m talking about.

Thanks and Jaza kallah khair

Respected Tariq Naeem, thanks for a very thoughtful and nice writeup. Let me add a little.

It is NOT sinful to pursue this world and the hereafter both at the same time … as long as the world is pursued with good intentions and in the service of Allah.

Fid Dunya Hasana taU(n) Wa Fil Akhira ti Hasana taU(n)

When the rich do not share with the poor, when the collectors of the poor due do not invest it properly, poverty increases and transforms into disillusionment.

There needs to be a drive for innovation, improvement and invention, both for improvement, progress and defense.

The Holy Prophet is not among us now. So where do we turn for such a leader ? Please answer this for me.

Respected Tariq Naeem, I liked your above writeup a lot. It really touched my heart a lot. I would be very much interested in contacting you. I just registered a gmail address for this purpose. Would you be so kind to contact me at this one and we could also chat. Best Regards.
adopts.criteria.by.which@gmail.com

I am a karachite. And so is my family. Plus I also belong to the urdu speaking community. And I also refuse to call myself a mohajir, because my family moved from within United India to an indepedent Pakistan not from Iran or elsewhere beyond the Indian subcontinent, plus I was born and raised in karachi.

I whole heartedly denounce Altaf and his fellow mafia.

I would like to ask the supporters of Altaf where do you think he got his support to start MQM. Let me give them a fact check, the army dictatorship of Zia and ISI.

So stop being fools and wake up.

Musharraf is nothing but an extention of Muhajir Quami Movement in the cover of a General’s uniform and I say this why?

Murder and killing of 60 people by Altaf on Musharraf’s orders to stop CJ’s rally on may 12th in karachi. Msharraf stated that no inquiry was required and gave a blow to sind high Court for ordering one.
Can you imagine if 60 MQM workers had been killed in Larkana or Lahore. Would that have been Musharraf’s stance?? Infact Musharraf’s is so ethnic that he has beaten Altaf Hussain way behind. He hates all communities of Pakistan EXCEPT followers of MQM and that is also what this party feels. They feel that 6% minority is enough for them to rule Pakistan.

Question any MQM follower and you will find nothing but hate for everyone. Ask them who they love, Sindhi? Punjabi? Pathan? Baluch? I guarantee you they hate them all and feel that Pakistan was made for their ethnicity who migrated and have maybe 6% representation.

Mush is a mass murderer and is working on the exact starategy of Altaf Hussain. The idea was to provide enough opportunity to MQM to be able to penetrate Punjab, Sind and Kashmir, which failed after May 12th and exposed the true face of this General not only in Punjab but became a topic of open discussions in the officer ranks of Pak army.

Time might be with Musharraf at the moment but there is no way that he will escape the gallows for the acts committed.

So, if Salman wrote against MQM, so what? The entire country is against this party run by a hateful character.

First for the TRUE EDUCATION in international politics, please study the forces in play.
I recommend a short fast-tracked course on listening to the complete speech of Benjamin Freedman on google (archive it for whoever got it to public, be the manifold blessing of God with him). Second, Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion, Also the book by Ford. Become very familiar with the history of Khazars and their Kagan or tribal leader Rothschild’s history. You will have to research and understand these dots well to get authentic understanding of them to connect them very properly.

The whole world is progressing, moving ahead on the basis of explosion of information. With the explosion of ebooks, (possibly with much aid from the israelis, and all forums involved in this have ENGLISH and RUSSIANS individuals, and we see they immediately censor any 911 truth thread or about israel that they are zionists russian jews, and this is a preliminary and necessary step according to them before they start the war on all other nations) muslims are going to be left behind all other nations. I especially see that there is absolutely poor intellectual and knowledge cooperation among muslims. Their plan to destroy pakistan is economic. But since iran has oil, that wont work so there the plan was military. Well iran is booming like first world with enthusiasm and creative energy. Memri TV shows their women educated, confidant, brave and they also do purdah. CIA has always supported criminals and fools to propagate their agenda. MQM was a criminal party. Right after 911, the first people to support the U turn was MQM. I remember their taunt: why did you fight the Russians ? Why did you let America win a decisive victory ? America’s sights were on Pakistan also. Musharraf could have been more deft in post 911 time. We must remember not to affirm the lie of 911 (because it was an inside job and a variant of a sequenced demolition operation to falsely project it as planes causing the destruction) by adopting the discource used by the criminals in america and israel who perpetrated it.

All I want to make the point is that 911 was a conspiracy in the sequence of many conspiracies which have led to miraculous emergence of khazars back. They are using foolish and greedy christians, who are themselves roman pagans now since they have pedophiles, child-molesters, adulterers among the congress and upper elite and easily black-mailed while masses are controlled by the media.

The put musharraf (being a fool) and MQM in a spot where they wanted him to be cornered. Now he must fight for his survival or abscond to Saudi Arabia or China and leave his 9 properties in posh areas that he loves so much.

The CIA and Mossad has bugged all his clothing and underwear by inserting small chips between the folds of his underwear and clothes. (I am hyperboling on purpose to show you the possibilities) With High Q and high energy capacitors and micro-batteries, a tracker chip does not need battery replacement. It can charge continuously from the random electromagnetic energy resonantly. Then send burst of tracking signals skywards. which is what they did to Khan and now to the personnel who went to US for training in Nuclear safety. Their main goal is to track and locate the assets.

The Khazar tribal leader, a descendent of Kagan himself wrote the article in NY times.

Dear Brother Muhammad Ali Jinnah you have rightly said that “It is NOT sinful to pursue this world and the hereafter both at the same time … as long as the world is pursued with good intentions and in the service of Allah.Fid Dunya Hasana taU(n) Wa Fil Akhira ti Hasana taU(n)” It is very true because Islam is in fact a system by implementing of which we can make our this world and hereafter better. And this is what I mentioned in my comment. In fact the problem with us as an Ummah at the moment is that we don’t have a touch stone a clear cut criteria to judge right from wrong, therefore what we do is comparison between two evils and chose the lesser evil. We have mixed criteria’s i.e. some time we take Islam as our source of judgment, some time we take our family, sometime we make our local cultures and usually our own interests. Our criteria must be crystal clear and that is to abstain from all those acts which are make forbidden ( Haram and makrooh) by our creator and do all those acts which are permissible, Highly recommended or obligatory.

Bro it would be my pleasure to be in contact with you.

wasalam and Jaza kallah-u-khair.

A great section of Urdu Speaking people (as mother tongue) of Pakistan, are in a complex that: they are chosen people, only they have a right to rule, only they have a right to lead, they pretend that they are the only civilized persons in Pakistan, all civil services to be granted to them. After partition, they captured all beneficial (even non-beneficial) services in Pakistan. Whole of the urban properties of Pakistan were taken by them into custody on fake claims. Natives welcomed them on Muslim brother hood basis but now these muhajirs are turned away of Islam, they are most jealous people of Pakistan. Their thoughts are very poisonous. They chose a terrorist as a leader. They want a quota in civil service more than their share. Musharaf is a muhajir, he is devoted to dominate the muhajirs. He (Musharaf) and Altaf Bhai in share has created a bluff for people of Pakistan to earn money and to kill Balouchis with name of “Gawadar�. The same bluff he is going to create with the company of Fazal Ur Rehman (JUI) and off course with Altaf Bhi with name of “Sawat� to earn money with converting it an Armed forces heaven. Whole of the conflict is a drama to capture the land of SAWAT to convert it into a brothel for Europeans.

Musharraf KUTTA !!! KHANZEER KA BACHA !!! QATIL !!!

Who’s afraid of Aitzaz Ahsan?
That’s life

Tuesday, December 25, 2007
Ayesha Tammy Haq

We have a civilian president. The emergency has been lifted, at least for some. The president and government are at pains to say that all is well, everything is going according to plan and that they are completely in control. Television channels are back on showing happy things like cooking shows, so we can all think happy thoughts and not dwell on rabble-rousing lawyers and journalists. Political parties are frenetically campaigning, running the length and, some, the breath of the country, getting ready for an election most of them claim will be rigged. To show us all how in control they were, the three remaining heroes of the lawyers’ movement, Aitzaz Ahsan, Justice Tariq Mahmood and Ali Ahmed Kurd, were to be released for three days so they could enjoy Eid with families and friends, and the Chief Justice of Pakistan and the other judges confined to quarters in the judges’ colony in Islamabad were to be allowed out to say their prayers.

Aitzaz Ahsan, confined in solitary in Adiala Jail and then moved to house arrest, was released on Dec 12 at midnight. He decided not to waste any time and went out to visit the deposed judges, meet with lawyers and talk to the press. So while the government thought they were cool, calm and in control, their reaction to Mr Ahsan’s 24 hours of liberty showed exactly how cool, calm and in control they were. What was it that scared them so much? Mr Ahsan is not known for violence, does not wield a weapon and has never been engaged in any kind of anti-state activity, unless you call winning the most important case in Pakistan’s, indeed some say in the world’s, history anti-state activity.

Prior to the ninth of March he was best known for his oratory in and out of parliament and his legal skills in the courtroom. After July 20 he was the man who had won the biggest case in history. The parties were two Goliaths, the Chief Justice of Pakistan versus the Chief of the Army Staff. Lesser men would have taken the case to the conclusion the army chief would have liked to see – off the rails and out of the court. Mr Ahsan knew that, while the entire nation was watching and had a stake in the result, it was this 13-member bench and not 160 million people that would restore the chief justice. To do this he had to strike a balance between the national movement he was leading outside court and creating and maintaining a cordial atmosphere in court. He managed it well. Through the week he argued eloquently in court, over the weekends he drove the Chief Justice across the country, carrying with him the lawyers, cutting across party lines, bringing out party workers and hundreds of thousands of ordinary citizens. It made him the country’s number one lawyer and at the same time the person most feared by the establishment, and in particular by the president. This is borne out by the fact that as he appeared set to win yet another landmark case, the eligibility of a sitting army chief to contest a presidential election, he was the first person to be arrested on Nov 3. His arrest was followed by the arrests of other main leaders of the lawyers’ movement, and then thousands of lawyers were rounded up in an attempt to completely render the lawyers leaderless and in disarray. Interestingly, politicians seemed not to pose much of a threat and it appeared that they were being arrested for form’s sake. Picked up and released almost immediately. Unlike protests by the lawyers, journalists, students and other members of civil society, their rallies were not lathi-charged and they got, and continue to get, plenty of press coverage. The lawyers and their supporters on the other hand seem to strike fear in the heart of the government.

So on the evening of Dec 20, having spent 50 days in jail, Mr Ahsan, after informing the authorities of his plans, set off for Islamabad with his son to say his Eid prayers at the Faisal Mosque. A short distance outside Rawalpindi he was stopped at gunpoint by plainclothes policemen who threatened him, roughed him up and threw him into the back of an open police van. They then proceeded to drive him around Chakwal and its environs for several hours, where he was exposed to the freezing night air in what appeared to be a deliberate effort to ensure that he get pneumonia and be rendered incapacitated and unable to lead the lawyers. After all, it had worked before, inasmuch as the authorities almost killed Muneer Malik in Attock jail where his kidneys shut down. Here it was a case of, get his lungs, put him out of commission without any external physical evidence of violence.

What is it about Mr Ahsan and his colleagues that worries the Presidency so much? Is it that they are the only real challenge to this dictatorial order? Is it that there are major constitutional roadblocks on the road to parliament and that the political parties do not appear to have the strength and maturity to deal with this mammoth constitutional pileup? Perhaps it is that they are clear on what is to be done. Their agenda is simple – rule of law and constitutionality. Where challenges to the military might are taken to the Supreme Court. For a dictatorial regime this is unacceptable, and rather than have the court decide, the full might of the state was used to snuff out fledgling signs of independence not only of the judiciary but the media as well.

What is it that the lawyers have done? Why are they being punished? Where is the clash of ideology? Is it that they want Pakistan to be a strong state with strong institutions that work for and protect its 160 million citizens and not a select few? Is it that they respect all institutions, including the military, but require that they do not stray out of the limits set out for them by the Constitution? The withdrawal of the release orders and the manner in which they were withdrawn signify a big defeat for a government that has put to rest the myth that all is well in the state of Pakistan. All, it appears, is not well. Mr Ahsan’s 24 hours of liberty showed that the lawyers’ movement was alive and powerful and the only force that can, and has the will to, challenge the legality of the actions taken by the president since Nov 3.

A lawyer created Pakistan through constitutional means and died before he could put the country on the right trajectory. His vision has been hijacked and many a military adventurer has imposed his own version of that vision. Today another lawyer has come forward to lead the country’s legal fraternity and civil society in taking Pakistan back on the road to constitutionality.

The writer is a corporate lawyer, host of a weekly talk show on satellite television and a freelance columnist. Email: ayeshatammy@gmail.com

On 911 the yanks aided by mossad killed 3000 of their own people.

Zia was killed by CIA along with the American Ambassador.

Kennedy was killed by the yank elite itself.

Lincoln was similarly killed by the yanks.

The real terrorism is the european and yank terrir against their own.

The zionists conspired with hitler to kill their own jews.

DISPASSIONATE ANALYST
ON WHO KILLED BENAZIR ?

Taliban would not be motivated to kill Benazir.

Musharraf is their bigger enemy who assisted the americans against
them with tremendous logistical support.

Her brother was killed in Karachi by the MQM. They are the most
callous, irreligious, and secular hardened killers, with no compassion
just like Musharraf. For example, who killed the registrar of the
supreme court, Hamid Raza execution style ?

They are bonded to Musharraf by the Mohajir blood.

Musharraf is a stooge of America. His ONLY son in there and so are
his brothers. He trusts them. He is being tutored personally by
Negroponte. CIA provides free consulting to him and Negroponte
personally tutors him. Ponte went there to tutor Musharraf on how to
handle the JUDICIARY in a machiavellian fashion, by inflicting a
mortal disabling wound , and that is exactly what Mush did.

The zionists and hindu are quietly watching because Mush and MQM
is doing their job and you maintain pin-drop silence when your enemy
is destroying itself.

According to the brainy NEOCONS, from the Ashkenazi or KHAZAR tribe of
Central Asia, the wise and learned authors of the protocols of the
learned elders of zion, the loyal servants of the King and Banker
Rothschild, one of whom Mikhail Khodorkovsky who looted the biggest of
Russian oil and was nabbed like a rat by Honorable Vladimir Putin of
Motherland Russia and the Fatherland, and also the master conspirators
of the Russian revolution and the establishment of the state of Israel
(An Illustrious Resume of ACHIEVEMENTS):

This is the way to handle an islamic nuclear country by making it
crumble from inside by putting a militant minority of biharis (who
were the back-stabbers to their very neighbors and muslim brothers,
the bengalis in 1971 on the basis of language and ethnicity) like the
Kallu Mush, on top of the majority in the country. Being cornered,
they will heartily and mightily fight and destroy each other with
wanton and abandon.

Being cornered, they will heartily and mightily fight and destroy each
other with wanton and abandon, AND MAKE NO MISTAKE, SRI-LANKA is a
proven case of SAVAGE TAMIL HINDU TERROR trained by none other than
the Israeli Mossad and the Indian RAW. Biharis are BECOMING
temperamentally very much like that.

We must stop the transmogrification of the Biharis by reaching out to
them by love and dialogue. Only that could work.

Musharraf and MQM believes that it is their historic opportunity
to setup a Mohajir Caliphate - forever.

The goal of CIA, Mossad, RAW is to create Tamil-Sinhalese
intensity and style hatred in Pakistan, and MQM is the perfect tool.
We must guard against it and resuscitate a hero like Dr A.Q.Khan to
serve as the bridge. It will kill many birds with one stone.

It will kill many birds with one stone.

It will kill many birds with one stone.

Musharraf and MQM dream has no feasibility, but their belief in it
will indeed make the CIA/Mossad/RAW plan not only feasible but
successful.

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Salam Salman,

I don’t know whether you are still following this thread or not,(and whether even this letter is actually real or not!) but I will hope you are, bc then I’ll be able to convey certain things to you which need be conveyed.

Junoon is magic. No question. But I always imagined you and the rest to be west-inspired musicians who had a whiff of sufism and were now using it for their music. However, that “Allah-u-Akbar” at the end of the letter is just so magnificently defiant and fervent, filled with love for a religion trampled mercilessly in the world of today that it touched me and made me realise you actually do feel for your religion and people.

It’s brilliant to see you quote Iqbal, Ghalib, and the Sufis. It’s magnificent to see you support Imran, the real leader of the nation, whom no one notices yet, but inshAllah they will…unless he is killed too, God forbid, like BB. MQM is the actual terrorist organisation working in Pak openly and no one is ready take them to task, bc of their fear. The measure of their fear is such that when I was studying medicine in karachi at Aga Khan, ppl would tell me NEVER to use any word against that douchebag, Altaf Hussain, who would rather have seen Pakistan break up in a million pieces than see any sincere leader trying to rouse or lead my beloved country, that raping, marauding, pillaging bastard with his minions.

Anyways, just wanted to applaude with echoes your belief and struggle for our homeland. May Islam and Pakistan emerge from this mire of distress, uncertainty, murder and corruption.

Allah-u-Akbar indeed and wassalam

Usman

Can we please stop blaming Altaf Hussain for every single act performed by anyone including MQM workers?
I understand that Altaf Hussain might have requested that he would like to have that particular guy sing at that ceremony and there is nothing wrong with that.
Yes, it is not right if Salman doesn’t want to sing there then he should not be threatned for that. Every individual has a right to refuse.
Now if Khalid or any other worker threatened him for that then it is not Altaf Hussain. It is just that person and everybody knows that it is very challenging to control every single person in that organization.
I have been a mqm worker for the last 20 years and I will not accept any behaviour like that. We have brought many person infront of a committee on complains and most of them got expelled for their wrong doing.
The point here is if you have complain go or call the committe and file a complaint and I know that the committe takes action. MQM does not allow any body especially his workers to threaten public.
Most people just talk about it they never complain and the argument they give is that “oh my life will be in danger”. That is just simply not true.
Anyway MQM has been trying to bring a change in the country and like every other party there can be good and bad people in that party.
Everybody including MQM is interested in equality for all of the citizens and a stronger Pakistan.

Let’s face what few dare to speak abot. Altaf Hussain is the biggest DON of Pakistan, who runs a well organised Mafia; extortion, murder, riots, big projects kickbacks, you name it and they are the champions. We Karachites need to get this stigma offour city. I don’t have a problem if MQM gets rid of Altaf and works as a normal political party.

actually Altaf hussain is whose keeping it together. The MQM has a problem with the gonda bradri but then again it’s not only theirs every political party has one. Now i know lot of you so called intellectuals wont agree but if you look at karachi now give the MQM some credit for what they have accomplished. The crime rate is down not by much but it’s not like the 90s atleast. Infastructure and wht not they’ve done something. They are not the problem. the main problem with our country relating to these gunda’s is student parties. If you want to be the local mawali with connections join a party.

Let’s face what few dare to speak about. Altaf Hussain is the biggest DON of Pakistan, who runs a well organised Mafia; extortion, murder, riots, big projects kickbacks, you name it and they are the champions. We Karachites need to get this stigma offour city. I don’t have a problem if MQM gets rid of Altaf and works as a normal political party.

For all those who lick the recent so called development and crap I just have one thing to say “development for the sake of development is no development at all”

For all those who are criticizing MQM & saying that MQM is responsible for the May/12th including Ayaz Amir (who are the eye witnessed of this tragedy)I just wanna ask are they close their eyes on 27th of December when Karachi was burning. When the criminals raped the gurls loot the shops make the banks & petrol pumps fire. Who is beyond this & what the hell these media persons,writers, news channels, the the civil society representative write,say,show.
On that day they forget Karachi or on that day every thing is o.k

ONE HILLIRIOUS COMMENT IMRAN KHAN TODAY SAID THAT DOES HE NEEDS A VISA FROM ENGLAND I.E ALTAF HUSSAIN TO GO TO KARACHI?

i think he’s(altaf hussian) a more treath to pakistan unity than musharaf after BB died he said that ” one more sindhi prime minister has died in punjab”

Cmon on why the hack is he saying that he wants pakistanis to fight with each other he wants sindh to be seperated from pakistan so he can become the king

MQM is the party of intellectual educated people who want to bring change in the Pakistan. These are disturbed from their ideology in which they want to empower people of Pakistan instead of feudal, industrialists and businessmen. They want to snatch power from 2% privileged class and give to 98% people of Pakistan. This is the reason propaganda is initiated on MQM since 1992 but we have seen that people of Karachi are with them and keep on supporting them. Even during operation in 1993 when MQM decided to participate in elections of provincial assembly. This is on record that without any election campaign they won the elections and rejected the false propaganda going on at that time.
Altaf Hussain never promotes his relative, brothers, and sisters in politics. He never gives tickets to his relatives. All the MNAs, MPAs and senators of MQM are educated and from middleclass. On the other hand leaders of PPP, PML-N PML-Q,ANP,MMA, and Jamat-e-Islam give tickets and promote their relatives, brothers, sisters, son, and daughters.
Today no one can deny that MQM has done great work for Sindh and Karachi during these 5 years. Such a great Developmental projects are initiated and completed which have never been done in last 60 years.

What happened on 12th May was not the only fault of MQM. 20 workers of MQM were also died due to firing of other parties. Who would be responsible for that? Every party was involved in that violence. Video is recorded in which guards of Shireen Rahman (PPP) were firing when Yousuf Raza Gilani, Naveed Qamar along with her in the Pajero. Workers of ANP were holding weapon on the roads and firing. Due to this workers also involved in the violence and in self defence thet had to takeout weapon. This would be injustice if all blame is given to MQM.

Where were Imran Khan, PPP , PML N, MMA, Asma Jahangir, media, and lawyers on 27th Dec when workers of PPP and ANP were looting people, torching properties, kidnapping innocent girls. No one said a single word on that incident. Shame on all these leaders specially Imran Khan who is self centered mean person who had tried to become popular on the incident of 12th May. But he didn’t say anything. Shame on him!
Who is responsible for incident of 27th dec in Karachi?

People open your eyes and try to understand that these 2% people from privileged class don’t want common people to come into power. For this they are using these tactics and initiate false propaganda on MQM. They fear that if this ideology spread in all over Pakistan then they would not find place to hide and they could fool people of Pakistan any more.

No girls were raped on 27th of December in Karachi this is all bullshit coming from gutter mouths of MQM.

And as for development in Karachi I just have one thing to say “Development just for sake of development is no development at all”.

and by the way everyone knows who was behind PSNC building burning and all the record being turned into ashes.

Who so ever doesn’t believe the authenticity of this letter shall clik the link below and see details:

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2007%5C05%5C30%5Cstory_30-5-2007_pg7_2

MQM is really a terrorist organization and netwoprked as italian MAFIA to control KHI. We all must condemn them, their terrorized political approcah and killing innocent ppl, kidnapping for ransom and asking for BHATTA’s in day to day business. Mr Raza need to talk to affectees of MQM terrrosim in Khi and Hyderabad. My own house has been snatched by MQM in Hyd by threatning my whole family and beating my father.We dispossed off that house to MQM and they converted it into TALUKA office. They must be punished by GOD one day.

Why ALTAF IS PROTECTED IN UK?. THESE COUNTRIES I MEAN UK AND US ARE AGAINST TEROR BUT FOR THEMSELVES.THEY NEED THESE THUGS FOR THEIR ACTS OF TERROR.I AM SURE ONE DAY ANOTHER MILITARY ACTION WILL START AGAINST THEM SOON ,BUT I WISH THEY START IT THIS TIME WITHOUT WARNING AND A ONE NIGHT RAID IS ENOUGH TO DESTROY THEM WITH PROPER SECRET PREPARATION.WE NEED TO START OUR OWN WAR ON TERROR IN KARACHI QUICKLY.

if u can start the hatred against againts MQM on ethinic basis why not we can defend MQM on ethinic basis? MQM takes votes of people and citizens of pakistan in 2008 elections its candidate founded a record of having largest votes in pakistan..

at last i wud say pakistan people mentality is buried in TAASUB…in northern areas terrorists are killing soldiers every day but no imran no nawaz no qazi no salman raise the voice against the soldiers kilings ..no one of them remebers as he did 12 may hunh? its all against MQM a planned targeted differentiation to keept down the influence of MQM on karachi…karahci which was made by Mohajirs ..what it was? fishermen town….mohajir made kalachi to Karahci and now u people have come to occupy the karachi..remember if u wud differentiate the MQM and mohajirs u will be facing a new Bengladesh soon..i swear

FROM MY POINT OF VIEW IMRAN KHAN USED SALMAN AHMED TO SAY THESE THINGS .BECAUSE I HAVE SEEN SALMAN AHMED MEETING WITH PRESIDENT MUSHARRAF SEVERAL TIMES.Y DIDNT SALMAN AHMED SAID TO PRESIDENT MUSHARRAF AFTERALL MQM IS A BIG SUPPORTER OF MUSHARRAF`S POLICIES.AND ANY BODY CAN MAKE A PHONE CALL AND THREAT ANYONE EASILY I THINK IMRAN KHAN HIMSELF DID THAT CALL AND THREATENED SALMAN AHMED USING THE NAME OF KHALID BIN WALEED.

SALMAN PLEASE USE UR COMMON SENSE MAN

Today is 12th May 2008, I fully support MQM over 12 May incidents. It was pre planned by the crytbaby parties, like PTI, ANP,PML-n, and PPP. These parties knew that their political agenda and their presence is no more suported in Karachi. MQM’s heavey mandate proved this in recent elections.

REMEMBER it was MQM, (Musalsal Quami Museeibat) which resorted to terrorism against unarmed peaceful activists of various mainstream political parties and lawyer community not the other way around.

REMEMBER it was ANP, (Awara Nange Pathan) which resorted to terrorism against unarmed peaceful workers of MQM and civil society not the other way around.

Assalam-0-alicum,
Brother’s and sister’s . This story is baseless. If salam has some problem with some one then he has to announced publicly. MQM is a truly middle class political party which has a philosophy based on realism and practicalism.

hi
to all
mqm is sindh largest politecal parti mqm idyalogy is very strong meour of karachi seyd musstafa qamal i cant bliveit very smol time in city change global is largest citys rows in
mqm i love me

Just one comment for all . Southern Sind is MQM . It has given an identity to the middle class of Pakistan . we know how the feudals of northern pakistan treat everyone including middle class like their dogs and slaves . It was MQM which gave a sense of respect to the Middle class and the rest follows our defiance to religious extremism , feudalism and ethnic strife . We are today Mohajirs , not becuase we wanted to be known as one but because are one. we did not win freedom and sacrificed ourlives and property to become slaves of the feudals here and are then have to adapt to become Sindhi , Punjabi , Baluch or Pathan . No one did us a favor by giving us space to live. We have an equal right to this nation as we have shed more blood for the creation of this nation than anyone else.

MQM is a reality and Altaf Bhai is its leader and if someone doesnt like it there are other cities like Lahore and Islamabad to live in Pakistan .

GA Altaf & GA MQM