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		<title>By: Censura en la red: el estado de la cuestión &#171; Blog de Rosa J.C.</title>
		<link>http://www.teeth.com.pk/blog/2006/04/20/silencing-the-pakistani-blogs#comment-223316</link>
		<dc:creator>Censura en la red: el estado de la cuestión &#171; Blog de Rosa J.C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 22:09:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] En Pakistán la situación tampoco es como para tirar cohetes, nos lo cuenta nuestro sabio dentista: Awab Alvi. Uno de los puntos de su ponencia es el “YouTube fiasco”. Descubrieron que sus contenidos no eran apropiados y comenzó su periplo. De bloggers.pk a enseñar como usar RSS y saltarse la censura para usar blogger con redirecciones para evitar los firewall. El 3 de noviembre de 2007 fue día clave en la lucha contra Musharraf: bloqueó 60 canales de televisión, presionó para que no contase nada a la prensa de papel y se abrieron hasta 60 procesos judiciales contra ciudadanos. La red era el refugio. Los SMS sirven para movilizar a la gente, con Twitter lo intentan pero no funciona aún con los móviles de su país. Los mensajes a los móviles funcionaron de manera destacada con el asesinato de Benazir Bhutto. El sistema del SMS tiene muchas posibilidades pero necesitan también números internacionales y una mejora en los precios. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] En Pakistán la situación tampoco es como para tirar cohetes, nos lo cuenta nuestro sabio dentista: Awab Alvi. Uno de los puntos de su ponencia es el “YouTube fiasco”. Descubrieron que sus contenidos no eran apropiados y comenzó su periplo. De bloggers.pk a enseñar como usar RSS y saltarse la censura para usar blogger con redirecciones para evitar los firewall. El 3 de noviembre de 2007 fue día clave en la lucha contra Musharraf: bloqueó 60 canales de televisión, presionó para que no contase nada a la prensa de papel y se abrieron hasta 60 procesos judiciales contra ciudadanos. La red era el refugio. Los SMS sirven para movilizar a la gente, con Twitter lo intentan pero no funciona aún con los móviles de su país. Los mensajes a los móviles funcionaron de manera destacada con el asesinato de Benazir Bhutto. El sistema del SMS tiene muchas posibilidades pero necesitan también números internacionales y una mejora en los precios. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Saeed</title>
		<link>http://www.teeth.com.pk/blog/2006/04/20/silencing-the-pakistani-blogs#comment-223136</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Saeed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 16:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Assalam-u-alaikum, Dr. Awab.

I realize that this response here is beyond even late, yet I wanted to congratulate you and Mr. Omar for your efforts towards bringing to attention the illegitimate blocking of websites, particularly blogs, in Pakistan. Thanks to these efforts, that we see such a well-knit Pakistani blogosphere which seems to grow stronger with every passing day. Thank you for all your efforts. :)

Best regards,
Dr. Saeed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Assalam-u-alaikum, Dr. Awab.</p>
<p>I realize that this response here is beyond even late, yet I wanted to congratulate you and Mr. Omar for your efforts towards bringing to attention the illegitimate blocking of websites, particularly blogs, in Pakistan. Thanks to these efforts, that we see such a well-knit Pakistani blogosphere which seems to grow stronger with every passing day. Thank you for all your efforts. :)</p>
<p>Best regards,<br />
Dr. Saeed</p>
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		<title>By: Periodismo Ciudadano</title>
		<link>http://www.teeth.com.pk/blog/2006/04/20/silencing-the-pakistani-blogs#comment-217037</link>
		<dc:creator>Periodismo Ciudadano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 15:09:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#8220;En Pakistán la situación tampoco es como para tirar cohetes, nos lo cuenta nuestro sabio dentista: Awab Alvi. Uno de los puntos de su ponencia es el “YouTube fiasco”. Descubrieron que sus contenidos no eran apropiados y comenzó su periplo. De bloggers.pk a enseñar como usar RSS y saltarse la censura para usar blogger con redirecciones para evitar los firewall.&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8220;En Pakistán la situación tampoco es como para tirar cohetes, nos lo cuenta nuestro sabio dentista: Awab Alvi. Uno de los puntos de su ponencia es el “YouTube fiasco”. Descubrieron que sus contenidos no eran apropiados y comenzó su periplo. De bloggers.pk a enseñar como usar RSS y saltarse la censura para usar blogger con redirecciones para evitar los firewall.&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Rosa J.C. &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Censura en la red: el estado de la cuestión</title>
		<link>http://www.teeth.com.pk/blog/2006/04/20/silencing-the-pakistani-blogs#comment-217032</link>
		<dc:creator>Rosa J.C. &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Censura en la red: el estado de la cuestión</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 09:16:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] En Pakistán la situación tampoco es como para tirar cohetes, nos lo cuenta nuestro sabio dentista: Awab Alvi. Uno de los puntos de su ponencia es el &#8220;YouTube fiasco&#8221;. Descubrieron que sus contenidos no eran apropiados y comenzó su periplo. De bloggers.pk a enseñar como usar RSS y saltarse la censura para usar blogger con redirecciones para evitar los firewall. El 3 de noviembre de 2007 fue día clave en la lucha contra Musharraf: bloqueó 60 canales de televisión, presionó para que no contase nada a la prensa de papel y se abrieron hasta 60 procesos judiciales contra ciudadanos. La red era el refugio. Los SMS sirven para movilizar a la gente, con Twitter lo intentan pero no funciona aún con los móviles de su país. Los mensajes a los móviles funcionaron de manera destacada con el asesinato de Benazir Bhutto. El sistema del SMS tiene muchas posibilidades pero necesitan también números internacionales y una mejora en los precios. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] En Pakistán la situación tampoco es como para tirar cohetes, nos lo cuenta nuestro sabio dentista: Awab Alvi. Uno de los puntos de su ponencia es el &#8220;YouTube fiasco&#8221;. Descubrieron que sus contenidos no eran apropiados y comenzó su periplo. De bloggers.pk a enseñar como usar RSS y saltarse la censura para usar blogger con redirecciones para evitar los firewall. El 3 de noviembre de 2007 fue día clave en la lucha contra Musharraf: bloqueó 60 canales de televisión, presionó para que no contase nada a la prensa de papel y se abrieron hasta 60 procesos judiciales contra ciudadanos. La red era el refugio. Los SMS sirven para movilizar a la gente, con Twitter lo intentan pero no funciona aún con los móviles de su país. Los mensajes a los móviles funcionaron de manera destacada con el asesinato de Benazir Bhutto. El sistema del SMS tiene muchas posibilidades pero necesitan también números internacionales y una mejora en los precios. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Online freedom of Speech - Global Voices &#187; Teeth Maestro</title>
		<link>http://www.teeth.com.pk/blog/2006/04/20/silencing-the-pakistani-blogs#comment-151416</link>
		<dc:creator>Online freedom of Speech - Global Voices &#187; Teeth Maestro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Feb 2007 22:15:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] speech as collateral damage?   Do also have a look at the presentation I gave on the topic &#8216;Silencing the Pakistani Blogs&#8216; practically one year back in Manila on the occasion of the three day meeting of Free [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] speech as collateral damage?   Do also have a look at the presentation I gave on the topic &#8216;Silencing the Pakistani Blogs&#8216; practically one year back in Manila on the occasion of the three day meeting of Free [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Anum Shafique</title>
		<link>http://www.teeth.com.pk/blog/2006/04/20/silencing-the-pakistani-blogs#comment-35642</link>
		<dc:creator>Anum Shafique</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Sep 2006 15:02:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know what, I do agree with Tracy to some extent. Being a muslim I can say that some of us have taken the route to extremism and have begun to endulge in terrorist acts. 

But that being said, I still feel that no matter what anyone says the solution to this problem is not masacring those poor people of Afghanistan and Iraq. People who have nothing to do with any of the things going on are being killed. The question here is not that is this on purpose or not or is it colateral damage or not, the question is why are those people suffering when they are innocent of the crimes, which these attacks are avenging.

As to the question of whether blogs should be silenced or not. Of course they should not. I do not know what has gotten into the government and the people. The freedom of speech belongs to everyone. If the Danish newspaper did publish those cartoons, it can be said that according to this liberty they are permitted to do so. 

But was it right to do what they did is the question. We muslims lack one thing and that is to use the rights, which the west calls fundamental and acts upon so often. If they have the freedom of speech so do we. 

Apparently we tried to prove them right by burning down our own cities and towns. These blogs and these sites were our weopon. They were the means, which would have helped us to show how wrong those ideas were. 

And what does our government do, well they block them. Why do they block them? In order to prevent the people of this country to not see those cartoons. By the time they actually blocked these websites many of the people had already seen them. 

Anyhow, the point is if they are trying to show their concern regarding this issue, they are doing a terrible job. By blocking these blogs they are not only suppressing what the west has to say on the matter but is also preventing the Pakistani community from fighting back. 

I sincerely feel that if the government is talking of enlightened moderation they should at least practically express this motive. By preventing their own people from seeing these cartoons they might be trying to prevent further hostility or trying to prevent Pakistani people from housing such ideas too, but while doing so if they prevent us from coming out and sharing our views with the world, it is the violation of our rights as well as violation of the rights of those people who voiced their views on those blog sites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know what, I do agree with Tracy to some extent. Being a muslim I can say that some of us have taken the route to extremism and have begun to endulge in terrorist acts. </p>
<p>But that being said, I still feel that no matter what anyone says the solution to this problem is not masacring those poor people of Afghanistan and Iraq. People who have nothing to do with any of the things going on are being killed. The question here is not that is this on purpose or not or is it colateral damage or not, the question is why are those people suffering when they are innocent of the crimes, which these attacks are avenging.</p>
<p>As to the question of whether blogs should be silenced or not. Of course they should not. I do not know what has gotten into the government and the people. The freedom of speech belongs to everyone. If the Danish newspaper did publish those cartoons, it can be said that according to this liberty they are permitted to do so. </p>
<p>But was it right to do what they did is the question. We muslims lack one thing and that is to use the rights, which the west calls fundamental and acts upon so often. If they have the freedom of speech so do we. </p>
<p>Apparently we tried to prove them right by burning down our own cities and towns. These blogs and these sites were our weopon. They were the means, which would have helped us to show how wrong those ideas were. </p>
<p>And what does our government do, well they block them. Why do they block them? In order to prevent the people of this country to not see those cartoons. By the time they actually blocked these websites many of the people had already seen them. </p>
<p>Anyhow, the point is if they are trying to show their concern regarding this issue, they are doing a terrible job. By blocking these blogs they are not only suppressing what the west has to say on the matter but is also preventing the Pakistani community from fighting back. </p>
<p>I sincerely feel that if the government is talking of enlightened moderation they should at least practically express this motive. By preventing their own people from seeing these cartoons they might be trying to prevent further hostility or trying to prevent Pakistani people from housing such ideas too, but while doing so if they prevent us from coming out and sharing our views with the world, it is the violation of our rights as well as violation of the rights of those people who voiced their views on those blog sites.</p>
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		<title>By: shahbaz</title>
		<link>http://www.teeth.com.pk/blog/2006/04/20/silencing-the-pakistani-blogs#comment-12296</link>
		<dc:creator>shahbaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jul 2006 19:49:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well it should not be banned bcoz there were a lot of people getting benifit from blogspot....if they would have blocked the only blasphamous sites then it be batter</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well it should not be banned bcoz there were a lot of people getting benifit from blogspot&#8230;.if they would have blocked the only blasphamous sites then it be batter</p>
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		<title>By: Tracy R. Twyman</title>
		<link>http://www.teeth.com.pk/blog/2006/04/20/silencing-the-pakistani-blogs#comment-4496</link>
		<dc:creator>Tracy R. Twyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Apr 2006 21:10:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Islamofascism" is a perfectly legitimate term that is used to identify the radical agenda of certain Islamic groups around the world to "Islamize" the globe through violence and intimidation. It is not a derogatory term identifying all Muslims. Here's a quote from a speech given by President George W. Bush  at  Elmendorf Air Force Base in Anchorage, Alaska in November of last year:

&lt;em&gt;The tragic images of innocent victims can make it seem like these terrorist attacks are random and isolated acts of madness. While these killers choose their victims indiscriminately, their attacks flow from an ideology and a terrifying vision for the world. Their acts are evil, but they're not insane. &lt;strong&gt;Some call this evil Islamic radicalism; others, militant jihadism; still others, Islamo-fascism. Whatever we choose to call this enemy, we must recognize that this ideology is very different from the tenets of the great religion of Islam. &lt;/strong&gt;This form of radicalism exploits Islam to serve a violent, political vision: the establishment -- by terrorism, subversion, and insurgency -- of &lt;strong&gt;a totalitarian empire that denies all political and religious freedom.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Islamofascism&#8221; is a perfectly legitimate term that is used to identify the radical agenda of certain Islamic groups around the world to &#8220;Islamize&#8221; the globe through violence and intimidation. It is not a derogatory term identifying all Muslims. Here&#8217;s a quote from a speech given by President George W. Bush  at  Elmendorf Air Force Base in Anchorage, Alaska in November of last year:</p>
<p><em>The tragic images of innocent victims can make it seem like these terrorist attacks are random and isolated acts of madness. While these killers choose their victims indiscriminately, their attacks flow from an ideology and a terrifying vision for the world. Their acts are evil, but they&#8217;re not insane. <strong>Some call this evil Islamic radicalism; others, militant jihadism; still others, Islamo-fascism. Whatever we choose to call this enemy, we must recognize that this ideology is very different from the tenets of the great religion of Islam. </strong>This form of radicalism exploits Islam to serve a violent, political vision: the establishment &#8212; by terrorism, subversion, and insurgency &#8212; of <strong>a totalitarian empire that denies all political and religious freedom.</strong></em></p>
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		<title>By: Steve Woodward</title>
		<link>http://www.teeth.com.pk/blog/2006/04/20/silencing-the-pakistani-blogs#comment-4090</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Woodward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2006 00:23:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My name is Steve Woodward. I'm a reporter with The Oregonian newspaper in Portland, Oregon, USA. I'm writing an article about a local Oregon blog that is one of the 12 blogs blocked by the Pakistan Telecommunication Authority in late February. The blog is Plus + Ultra (www.plusultrablog.com).

I know that you are working very hard on free expression issues on the Internet, especially censorship of Blogspot and Wikipedia. With your permission, I would like to quote from your speech. 

Also, you have focused on freedom of expression for Blogspot blogs written by Pakistanis. What do you and your organization think about the blocking of non-Pakistani blogs that posted the Danish cartoons and that express anti-Islamic sentiments?

The local Oregon blog not only published the cartoons, but invited readers to submit more cartoons. In addition, the blog uses the term "Islamofascists" and other anti-Islamic terms. Do you think the Pakistani government is right to block this site, or should it allow the Pakistani people to see the site?

You can reach me online at stevewoodward@news.oregonian.com. Thanks very much for any insight you can provide.

Steve Woodward</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My name is Steve Woodward. I&#8217;m a reporter with The Oregonian newspaper in Portland, Oregon, USA. I&#8217;m writing an article about a local Oregon blog that is one of the 12 blogs blocked by the Pakistan Telecommunication Authority in late February. The blog is Plus + Ultra (www.plusultrablog.com).</p>
<p>I know that you are working very hard on free expression issues on the Internet, especially censorship of Blogspot and Wikipedia. With your permission, I would like to quote from your speech. </p>
<p>Also, you have focused on freedom of expression for Blogspot blogs written by Pakistanis. What do you and your organization think about the blocking of non-Pakistani blogs that posted the Danish cartoons and that express anti-Islamic sentiments?</p>
<p>The local Oregon blog not only published the cartoons, but invited readers to submit more cartoons. In addition, the blog uses the term &#8220;Islamofascists&#8221; and other anti-Islamic terms. Do you think the Pakistani government is right to block this site, or should it allow the Pakistani people to see the site?</p>
<p>You can reach me online at <a href="mailto:stevewoodward@news.oregonian.com">stevewoodward@news.oregonian.com</a>. Thanks very much for any insight you can provide.</p>
<p>Steve Woodward</p>
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